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Deanna Troi's Outfits

I always felt like the Counselor position was analogous to a Human Resources Business Partner in terms of their duties as an officer. They advise the CO on command decisions, keep the pulse of the crew, help with personnel management and development, etc.

Often in the corporate structure, the lead HR person is tied at the hip of the VP. I think the role is very similar in the 24th century aboard starships. They also obviously have psychology/psychiatry duties. Given the stress involved, the number of Starfleet and civilian personnel aboard and the duration of the mission, it actually makes good sense.

My only quibble is that modern SHRM is designed to use up humans and disregard them in the most efficient manner so its not entirely commensurable with what Troi's role was.
 
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if you mean the minidress uniform she wore in EAF, that looked good in the pilot and I did like the look of it. But it probably didn't really fit her character.
That having been said though, she probably would have been better off in almost every other outfit she wore rather than the horrible grey denim which I know Marina has said that she absolutely hated (and who could blame her TBH). :cool:

My post wasn't really clear. I meant that I would of liked her just being in standard StarFleet uniform from the beginning, like she was in the movies. That's what I meant. :cool:
 
I always felt like the Counselor position was analogous to a Human Resources Business Partner in terms of their duties as an officer. They advise the CO on command decisions, keep the pulse of the crew, help with personnel management and development, etc.

Often in the corporate structure, the lead HR person is tied at the hip of the VP. I think the role is very similar in the 24th century aboard starships. They also obviously have psychology/psychiatry duties. Given the stress involved, the number of Starfleet and civilian personnel aboard and the duration of the mission, it actually makes good sense.


My only quibble is that modern SHRM is designed to use up humans and disregard them in the most efficient manner so its not entirely commensurable with what Troi's role was.
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What?
 
if you mean the minidress uniform she wore in EAF, that looked good in the pilot and I did like the look of it. But it probably didn't really fit her character.
That having been said though, she probably would have been better off in almost every other outfit she wore rather than the horrible grey denim which I know Marina has said that she absolutely hated (and who could blame her TBH). :cool:

My post wasn't really clear. I meant that I would of liked her just being in standard StarFleet uniform from the beginning, like she was in the movies. That's what I meant. :cool:

oh right sorry. my mistake:cool:
 
yeah. as I said already though, I think my three favourites of Troi's outfits are:

(a)the minidress uniform
(b) The blue dress uniform
(c) her season 6 uniform

The "off-the-shoulder" dress she wore in episodes like "Hollow Pursuits" and "the Ninth Degree" I liked as well but not as much as the others. :cool:
 
I always felt like the Counselor position was analogous to a Human Resources Business Partner in terms of their duties as an officer. They advise the CO on command decisions, keep the pulse of the crew, help with personnel management and development, etc.

Often in the corporate structure, the lead HR person is tied at the hip of the VP. I think the role is very similar in the 24th century aboard starships. They also obviously have psychology/psychiatry duties. Given the stress involved, the number of Starfleet and civilian personnel aboard and the duration of the mission, it actually makes good sense.

My only quibble is that modern SHRM is designed to use up humans and disregard them in the most efficient manner so its not entirely commensurable with what Troi's role was.
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What?

Society for Human Resource Management. So, I guess he's speaking of HR in general as a tool for using up and replacing employees in an efficient manner. I'm not sure that's exactly the mission statement of someone in HR, but I do agree that they're not counselors.

I'm not sure if Troi had a role analogous to human resources (obviously she wouldn't deal with pay issues, but maybe interpersonal conflicts?).

But the complement of a Galaxy class is almost three times as big as a Constitution, and way, way larger than Defiants or even Intrepids in crew. Deep Space 9 is the only thing analogous to the Enterprise-D in size (an average population of 2000 - crew, residents, and visitors). So it makes some sense that only TNG and DS9 had counselors, since they're so much larger than any other crew we've seen before or since.
 
Okay, these are the episodes, from memory, where Deanna was seen wearing what I consider to be her trademark blue dress.
Season 3
The Survivors (1st appearance)
Booby Trap
The Price
The High Ground
A Matter Of Perspective
The Offspring
Sins Of The Father
Captain's Holiday
Hollow Pursuits
Sarek
Transfigurations

Season 4
Family
Brothers
Future Imperfect
The Loss
Data's Day
Galaxy's Child
Night Terrors (very brief scene)
The Host

Last time Deanna was seen wearing that dress was in the season 7 episode Parallels. Although at that stage with her hair style the way it was then, combined with the dress it didn't look quite right to me. :cool:
 
just had a quick think there about her miniskirt / minidress uniform in the pilot episode. Have to admit that didn't look too bad on her. Damn! she looked very sexy!
 
Just watched Menage a Troi last night and she is stuck in some late 80's poly bizarre get-up. It had tights underneath, which did nothing for her.
 
I too really liked the blue dress. It looked more comfortable than the others. Would have been nice to get her in the uniform before season 6.
 
After some thinking, I've come to the decision that Troi's best outfit for me was that blue dress that she wore in Seasons 3 & 4.

I did like her other outfits including the regular Starfleet uniform she wore from the middle of Season 6 (Chain Of Command) until the finale too.

She looked her absolute best IMO at the start of the episode "Family". To me her look in that particular episode is her most iconic look.:cool:

I love Deanna's outfits. But also I love Guinan's outfits. and Beverly's lab coats. But Beverly technically had a Star Fleet uniform all the time, or almost all of the time.

Guinan's outfits are similar enough to Deanna's outfits that it would not surprise me if Guinan secretly has a Star Fleet rank. If they are going to let Deanna walk around on duty with non-traditional uniforms.

I would like to have seen a head piece for Deanna. They originally were going to have her wear one. After all, isn't she supposed to be a princess? They let Worf have his warrior sash and they let Ro have her ear piece and they let Guinan wear her hats, so why not add an exotic crown with exotic jewels for Deanna's hair?? Even if Deanna should have a Star Fleet uniform for every episode.

Her outfits should have at least matched the colour of her position, which should have been dark blue.

As for Deanna being on the bridge all the time, she is the captain's paralegal and basically the ship's ambassador, second only to her mother (lol). Her other duties should be near sickbay, as she is an associate to the CMO.
 
To be honest, the bunny suit looks to be the most comfortable, and without a doubt would be the best if you had to fight hand to hand.

How many times must Marina Sirtis have silently reminded herself, "Don't lean forward!"
 
Sirtis looked good in everything she wore, but it would have been nice if she had been given a proper uniform on day one so she wouldn't look like the odd one out in group photos. Professional attire would have suited her role aboard the ship.

Then again, even the writers often seemed to be conflicted with regards to what Troi actually did. Is she an adviser or a counselor? She was a really good adviser to the captain for a few episodes, but then the writers realized that having someone who could read the minds of the enemy was too convenient.

So she became a counselor with an officer rank for some reason, and the fact that her uniform was completely different from the rest of the crew became even more strange.
 
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