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Deanna Troi's Outfits

That one was supposed to flatter her figure, with a cinched waist. As I said a page or two ago, she hated it with a passion. It was made of denim, did not stretch at all, and the waist, with the belt, felt like a corset to her. She said she couldn't sit properly, or breathe while wearing it.
That's pretty much the description actors--both male and female--have had for the Starfleet uniform costumes throughout the entire run of the show. They were all said to be very tight, difficult to move around in, and generally uncomfortable to wear for any real length of time.
 
I don't doubt that, but Marina Sirtis seemed to have a special hatred for this outfit. She said she would've rather worn the cheerleader outfit and go-go boots than ever put it on again.
 
That one was supposed to flatter her figure, with a cinched waist. As I said a page or two ago, she hated it with a passion. It was made of denim, did not stretch at all, and the waist, with the belt, felt like a corset to her. She said she couldn't sit properly, or breathe while wearing it.
That's pretty much the description actors--both male and female--have had for the Starfleet uniform costumes throughout the entire run of the show. They were all said to be very tight, difficult to move around in, and generally uncomfortable to wear for any real length of time.

Think that was one of the reasons why the uniforms in general were redesigned into the two-piece outfits the cast had from season 3 onwards.:)
 
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And who could forget all that camel toe on TNG, these ladies really owned it!
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Seriously tho, I like the green (turquoise?) dress and the uniforms
 
yeah. Agree completely about the grey demin outfit. Didn't look good on Marina at all. The blue dress and indeed her hair, as I've already said, looked so much better in seasons 3 and season 4.

She looked good in her standard Starfleet uniforms as well but in all honesty, if you're a ship's counsellor and you're trying to get people to talk about their personal issues, that maybe an informal look is better in order to try and help them relax. :cool:
 
That one was supposed to flatter her figure, with a cinched waist. As I said a page or two ago, she hated it with a passion. It was made of denim, did not stretch at all, and the waist, with the belt, felt like a corset to her. She said she couldn't sit properly, or breathe while wearing it.
That's pretty much the description actors--both male and female--have had for the Starfleet uniform costumes throughout the entire run of the show. They were all said to be very tight, difficult to move around in, and generally uncomfortable to wear for any real length of time.

Think that was one of the reasons why the uniforms in general were redesigned into the two-piece outfits the cast had from season 3 onwards.:)
Those were described as being particularly uncomfortable for the cast. They were said to be extremely tight around the waist and shoulders, making it impossible to raise their arms in without the top rising up and hitting them in the face (making "the Picard Maneuver" a must for scenes in which cast members needed to reach up for something).
 
Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.

Well, the thing about the CMO is that they aren't on the bridge in high stress situations.
( Or at least, they shouldn't be -- we all know McCoy used to hang around on the bridge all the time pestering the Captain, but I suspect he's the exception rather than the norm. :D ;) )

While it was a set prescedent that McCoy performed that role in TOS, and that Doctor Bev still had the authority vested in her to relieve Jean Luc should it be necessary, my feeling is that maybe by 24th century Trek they've been dallying with the notion of splitting the responsibilities. Maybe Beverly has the authority, but it's Deanna who has got actual oversight on the Captain's mental health and well being. Most telling are ''We'll Always Have Paris'' (where she pulls him aside and asks him if he's okay with the Janice Manheim situation), and ''Generations'' (where she's obviously well aware that he's going through some kind of personal turmoil, and visits him in his cabin to help him get through it). Beverly, for all her training, should be in sickbay dealing with other matters, not hanging around at the back of Deck 1 just to see how Picard is coping.

I'm not suggesting Deanna herself is responsible for relieving him of duty. But she may be a crucial cog in the wheel of monitoring his condition in those high stress situations, hence her seat in the circle on the bridge.
I think on some other Galaxy-class ships, that third chair may be occupied by someone else (like the second officer), or there might not even be a third chair there at all even.

I always felt like the Counselor position was analogous to a Human Resources Business Partner in terms of their duties as an officer. They advise the CO on command decisions, keep the pulse of the crew, help with personnel management and development, etc.

Often in the corporate structure, the lead HR person is tied at the hip of the VP. I think the role is very similar in the 24th century aboard starships. They also obviously have psychology/psychiatry duties. Given the stress involved, the number of Starfleet and civilian personnel aboard and the duration of the mission, it actually makes good sense.
 
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Normally, that would be the chief medical officer's job. McCoy mentioned once or twice that was part of his duties during TOS.

That may still be the case on TNG-era ships that don't have a ship's counselor. Other ships still may simply call upon psychologists from either their medical departments.
Well, the thing about the CMO is that they aren't on the bridge in high stress situations.
( Or at least, they shouldn't be -- we all know McCoy used to hang around on the bridge all the time pestering the Captain, but I suspect he's the exception rather than the norm. :D ;) )

While it was a set prescedent that McCoy performed that role in TOS, and that Doctor Bev still had the authority vested in her to relieve Jean Luc should it be necessary, my feeling is that maybe by 24th century Trek they've been dallying with the notion of splitting the responsibilities. Maybe Beverly has the authority, but it's Deanna who has got actual oversight on the Captain's mental health and well being. Most telling are ''We'll Always Have Paris'' (where she pulls him aside and asks him if he's okay with the Janice Manheim situation), and ''Generations'' (where she's obviously well aware that he's going through some kind of personal turmoil, and visits him in his cabin to help him get through it). Beverly, for all her training, should be in sickbay dealing with other matters, not hanging around at the back of Deck 1 just to see how Picard is coping.

I'm not suggesting Deanna herself is responsible for relieving him of duty. But she may be a crucial cog in the wheel of monitoring his condition in those high stress situations, hence her seat in the circle on the bridge.
I think on some other Galaxy-class ships, that third chair may be occupied by someone else (like the second officer), or there might not even be a third chair there at all even.

I always felt like the Counselor position was analogous to a Human Resources Business Partner in terms of their duties as an officer. They advise the CO on command decisions, keep the pulse of the crew, help with personnel management and development, etc.

Often in the corporate structure, the lead HR person is tied at the hip of the VP. I think the role is very similar in the 24th century aboard starships. They also obviously have psychology/psychiatry duties. Given the stress involved, the number of Starfleet and civilian personnel aboard and the duration of the mission, it actually makes good sense.
Or it may just be something Picard wanted to do. On other ships, the captain may rely on other officers, such as his first officer or chief medical officer.
 
Voyager had no third seat next to the Captain for a counselor. Defiant had no obvious counselor on board to advise Sisko.
 
It may depend on the type of ship and mission. The Voyager and Defiant were meant for short-term missions lasting a few weeks. The Enterprise was meant to possibly be out for years at a time.
 
Love the uniform she wore in First Contact and Voyager. If only we had gotten that all throughout the series.
 
^ I agree with that. I liked those uniforms the best overall on anybody.

As for best Troi outfit in my eyes, I wish she would of been in the uniform from the beginning and stayed in uniform, rather then those other dresses or suits.
 
As for best Troi outfit in my eyes, I wish she would of been in the uniform from the beginning and stayed in uniform, rather then those other dresses or suits.

I sort of agree with this... but... I don't know, that grey suit with purple "collar" was her style, IMO.
 
Since that was what she seemed to always be in its hard to imagine it any different, but when I saw her in Generations (and then with the awesome new uniforms afterwards) I started wishing that was what she wore all the time. To me she wore it well.
 
^ I agree with that. I liked those uniforms the best overall on anybody.

As for best Troi outfit in my eyes, I wish she would of been in the uniform from the beginning and stayed in uniform, rather then those other dresses or suits.

if you mean the minidress uniform she wore in EAF, that looked good in the pilot and I did like the look of it. But it probably didn't really fit her character.
That having been said though, she probably would have been better off in almost every other outfit she wore rather than the horrible grey denim which I know Marina has said that she absolutely hated (and who could blame her TBH). :cool:
 
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