Deadline reporting new Trek series, what about fan productions?
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More than likely this new series will follow the new continuity established in the recent movies.
Your question is like, ''can we continue making fan films based on the Adam West Batman show, even though the current film series is set in the Christopher Nolan ''universe'' ?
Your question is like, ''can we continue making fan films based on the Adam West Batman show, even though the current film series is set in the Christopher Nolan ''universe'' ?
But don't quite a few of them use design elements cribbed from the new films?
I think Tom makes some interesting points here. It looks like with this series being on CBS all access it will require a monthly subscription of 6 USD per month, here in the states. As the CBS All Access library isn't something ALOT of people are clamoring for, I expect people to divert Fan film contributions to this series...
I also can't imagine CBS letting fan series continue, especially with the subscription model they are going for with this.... BUT shutting down projects will be difficult, without offending lots of fans. (Potential subscribers)
I also can't imagine CBS letting fan series continue, especially with the subscription model they are going for with this.... BUT shutting down projects will be difficult, without offending lots of fans. (Potential subscribers)
I knew that CBS and Viacom were working to clear the legal hurtles to get a new series on the air for 2017. I did not expect them to announce this early, I was thinking it would have been in summertime close the STB release. I also knew they were planning on it being on there streaming service. This is potentially bad news for STR and probably Axanar (to get the funds for the second half of there production) , STC and P2 might be ok though, really to early to tell at this point.
I suspect Tom is right. If this affects anyone it'll likely be the productions that have made hundreds of thousands crowdfunding. I also wouldn't be surprised if some of those large sums productions have raised have helped convince the powers that be that there's a subscription market out there.
I hope no productions are affected by this. Hidden Frontier was running when Trek was still on the air, but then they weren't raising large sums of money through crowdfunding.
As in all things, wait and see.
I hope no productions are affected by this. Hidden Frontier was running when Trek was still on the air, but then they weren't raising large sums of money through crowdfunding.
As in all things, wait and see.
Well I'd hate to see any production affected by this, so here's hoping the status quo continues. I can see the crowdfunding sources drying up, or at least raising less money.
Living in Canada it might be different for me then living in the U.S., but if given a choice between paying money for a JJtrek based series or donating to something like Star Trek Continues then it's no contest and STC would get my money.
Then again for a lot of folks there might not be any conflict whatsoever.
Then again for a lot of folks there might not be any conflict whatsoever.
IDK - The Hollywood Reporter article states the premiere of the new series will be broadcast on CBS (and it also states a fourth Star Trek feature film is planned for a 2019 release) - and if ratings/buzz is good, I don't see CBS limiting all future episode to just their online streaming service.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-tv-series-works-828638
They MAY release them there first - but again, if the production quality and ratings are good, CBS would probably find some way to air the episodes on TV (and get the ad revenue and merchandising that generates.)
As for it taking place in the 'JJ Verse' - wouldn't that require some sort of agreement between CBS and Paramount, since CBS owns the TV rights to all the 'Prime Universe' TV shows and films; while Paramount is the sole IP owner for the JJ Abrams Star trek film series?
(Again not saying such an agreement was not made as it would behove CBS and Paramount to 'work together' promoting the Star Trek franchise - but you never know.)
Then again, you do realize that this may end up being precisely the reason the studio may choose to justify shutting down all the fan films once and for all, right?
Speaking strictly for myself that still certainly wouldn't get me to cough up any money for it.
For now I will try to be cautiously optimisitic that things will continue as they currently are...for awhile at least.
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The likelihood of the new series and fan productions being in a zero-sum contest for fan dollars is minuscule. Anyone who has money to spend on Kickstarter will also have money to spend on CBS All Access or whatever it's called and the number of Trekkies who would refuse to shell out for the show on principle is (I strongly suspect, excepting Warped9 of course) very small (no matter how much smack they might talk about Abrams or Kurtzman). The likelihood of fan productions raising enough money through crowdfunding to become a blip on the radar is likewise minuscule. Axanar has raised a king's ransom for a fan production but even at its final target numbers it won't be equal to a single episode of TNG, much less to what's likely going into a show that's being designed as the flagship of CBS' digital subscription service.
I know we'll be getting another rash of people being "shocked, shocked that CBS legal hasn't intervened" but I expect it to be as much of a non-issue with a new show in the equation as it has been to this point without one.
I know we'll be getting another rash of people being "shocked, shocked that CBS legal hasn't intervened" but I expect it to be as much of a non-issue with a new show in the equation as it has been to this point without one.
Good for you!
I wasn't trying to suggest you do that. I was trying to point out that given fans predilection to rather pay for fan films than officially licensed streaming video, the powers that be might decide "fuck it, they've played in our sandbox for free for long enough" and bring down the hammer on your beloved Continues, on P2, Renegades, Axanar, et al.
^^ They might do that, but the viewers drawn by fan productions is likely truly miniscule compared to what a studio/network production would draw. They could take the view that fan productions are a mosquito not worth worrying about as long as they continue to play by the rules.
There are still a lot of unknowns at this point. It's not impossible this new series could interest me. In that event I wouldn't mind watching both the official production as well as STC.
It's a safe bet we will never see a TOS centric production like STC from TPTB so it would be nice to still be able to visit that version every few months for a new installment. As for the official production it will have to really get my interest to pony up for a streaming service just to watch. These days there really isn't much I have to see right now.
In Canada I like that if I'm unable to watch Murdoch Mysteries or Supergirl when they air on their respective networks I can stream them the next day (for free) from CBC or Global online.
There are still a lot of unknowns at this point. It's not impossible this new series could interest me. In that event I wouldn't mind watching both the official production as well as STC.
It's a safe bet we will never see a TOS centric production like STC from TPTB so it would be nice to still be able to visit that version every few months for a new installment. As for the official production it will have to really get my interest to pony up for a streaming service just to watch. These days there really isn't much I have to see right now.
In Canada I like that if I'm unable to watch Murdoch Mysteries or Supergirl when they air on their respective networks I can stream them the next day (for free) from CBC or Global online.
I agree that there are still a lot of unknowns. And it is my sincere hope that the fan films will be allowed to continue alongside the official productions. I just have a bad feeling in my gut that given the method of distribution CBS is aiming for that there's going to be some kind of clamping down in some form or another, particularly given the insane amount of money fans are willing to give to the crowdfunding for these fan films. It could very well be that this is (in part) why CBS is going to distribute via its paid streaming service. Only time will tell I guess.
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