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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

A cast can only take a show so far. And just because it's Arrowverse, doesn't mean it gets a pass.

Let's not sugarcoat it. This show is fucking terrible.
I agree with all of this. The show is criminally wasting its cast.

I guess Gotham no longer has to call itself the worst DC TV series. :shrug:
But I stopped watching Gotham a long time ago, because I thought it was that bad, so I couldn't say.
 
I prefer this show to Gotham.
A cast can only take a show so far. And just because it's Arrowverse, doesn't mean it gets a pass.

Let's not sugarcoat it. This show is fucking terrible. I guess Gotham no longer has to call itself the worst DC TV series. :shrug:

I prefer this show to Gotham.

I prefer Gotham by far to Arrow. At least Gotham has good actors and engaging characters (not all of them, obviously). This show isn't particularly good so far, but it's far less bad than I feared (Carter's death helped a lot with that). I'd say (while the specific problems with each show are different), it's not really any worse overall than either Gotham or Supergirl at the moment.
 
I tend to agree that this isn't a very good show...and yet somehow, I find myself being entertained by it regardless.
It's weird because before now I've given up on better shows than this by this point.
 
But the Venture Bros is back, so all is good in the world.

Huge spoilers in the leaked episode that supported some of my aimless conjecture from a few days ago.

The Time Masters HQ is located at Vanishing Point. A (think spacestation) timestation (but more of a fortress) hovering over the lip of the last second of the Universe before total entropy.

The "Legends" were collected from many/several different timelines. The Exact quote was "They will be returned to their own timelines unharmed" which I suppose could be clumsy speak to say that that they each have a personal future history to live out, but then the writer would have to be a moron or intentionally misleading, not that everything about this show screams that parallel timelines do not exist... Although sequential timelines do exist, which means that some to most of the legends do not have a home to return to that is not already being space held by a doppelganger with right to that life than the Legend.
 
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I prefer this show to Gotham.

I'll take it a step further. I prefer this to Gotham (by default since I don't watch Gotham), Arrow and Supergirl. I really enjoy LoT, and the only superhero shows I'd say are better are The Flash and Agents of SHIELD. LoT has a better cast of characters, better writing, better actors, and is just overall a lot more fun than Arrow or Supergirl.
 
It's possible that Hunter collected each of these heroes from different (yet similar) timelines to minimize the the disturbances their absences would cause, and that is why Stein has no memory of teaching Palmer because he didn't.

Concerning the atom tech turning the present into a slag heap or Stein's ring disappearing, it all depends on when the Legends individual times diverged from each other, that changes to t he past can effect many timeline simultaneously is they all have a common shared history if you go far back enough.

This show has been a mess so far in my opinion. That said, I'm finding it fun in a Smallville kind of way.

I agree with Guy that Stein's lack of memory is going to play a significant role in the plot, and the alternate timelines does sound kind of intriguing--but too sophisticated for what the show has displayed so far.

As far as Savage's body goes, I fully expected them to take him and lock him in a cell. At least they could have taken him to the end of time and left him there or kept him in stasis. It would have been a neat idea, and fitting with Savage's character, if they thought they disposed of him only to find him returned to the past at the very end of the episode. At least they wouldn't have looked like idiots then.
 
1. Vandal Savage takes over the world.

2. The Time masters cite that this established history that they should not change because this dark era leads to better days upstream.

3. Rip goes mental and rogue, tearing about the time stream trying and failing to kill Vandal, but at every turn Vandal Savage is just made stronger, and future history stays ridiculously the same, no matter how much future tech and foreknowledge they expose Vandal savage to.

4. Rip is captured, brought to Vanishing Point, to stand trial for screwing over time before the Chief Time master, who he has never met before... Vandal Savage.
 
Maybe Vandal has the Forever version of immortality...it doesn't matter what they do with his body, because he's going to pop up naked in the nearest polluted body of water.
 
Ugh, it started 30 minutes early here in Canada for some odd reason so it screwed up my DVR and didn't record.
 
Nice to see them address the issue of translation and come up with a handy sci-fi fix for having everyone speak English. Good thing they dealt with that before they traveled back to, say, Ancient Rome.

I liked the heist/caper music in the Pentagon break-in.

Interesting that the head of the "Soviet Firestorm" program is named Valentina Vostok. In the comics,
the character of that name became Negative Woman, taking on the powers of Negative Man of the Doom Patrol, which entailed becoming radioactive and fusing with a "negative energy being" that could fly and blow things up. Sounds sort of similar to Firestorm -- or like something that might happen as a result of a flawed attempt to recreate Firestorm?
 
She was also more recently a big wig in Checkmate. :)

The actress was more scary on Mr Robot, but that's just because she had more to work with.
 
Starting to see a trend in Berlanti shows of female characters contracting uncontrollable rage in combat.

Also, way to almost completely sidestep the 1986 setting by sticking to military locations and one night scene in the USSR.
 
on CTV At 8:30 pm right after The Big Bang Theory? I think that is the regular time slot.

Im going to be sounding really unobservent but I actually don't recall what channel I've been watching it on the last however many weeks, but it was on at 9. Guess I wasn't watching it on CTV. The first Thursday it aired i just looked for it and hit record
 
So I am completely oblivious. It has been recording every Thursday at 8:30, it just didn't record tonight because it recorded Sunday. I'm not sure why it aired at 9.
 
^Ah weird. Maybe a local delay? I know CTV posts the episode online the next day. I usually watch it if I miss the airing.
 
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