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Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 1

On the Flash last year Gideon says that Barry invented Gideon.

I assumed that the Time Travelers were using the oldest "usable" tech they could find while visiting the deep past... Not that Barry has a house in the future and invents stuff contributing to science, which seems to be closer to the truth from the information now available.
 
FPAlpha said:
The Flash season 1 finale also references Rip Hunter when Eobard Thawne inspects the ship that is going to take him backe remarking that Rip Hunter would approve of the ship.
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Oh, that's right, they've met, haven't they?

Guy Gardener said:
On the Flash last year Gideon says that Barry invented Gideon.

I assumed that the Time Travelers were using the oldest "usable" tech they could find while visiting the deep past... Not that Barry has a house in the future and invents stuff contributing to science, which seems to be closer to the truth from the information now available.
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Thomas Edison invented the light bulb. We use light bulbs in the present. Does that mean Thomas Edison lives in the present?
 
Yes! That's what I said to myself originally.

But I was wrong?

Thawne treated the Flash as a contemporary from the 22nd century, and had no idea that the early 21st century was the Flash's origin point.

Thawne was born in 2151

Vandal Savage takes over the world in 2166.

Teenage Thawne must have had some adventures. :)
 
Yeah, that whole aspect was just weird. The Flash has/will have a friggin' museum dedicated to him. I'm pretty sure his "origin point" will be public knowledge by Thawne's time. And considering that Thawne didn't even learn his actual origin point, just what time period he was active in... well, I just don't even know what to say or think in regards to that other than he must be Lois Lane-level stupid.

I also don't get the Gideon thing. How or even why would a criminal investigator have the know-how to not only create the world's most advanced AI, but one so advanced that it's used even in Rip Hunter's "the best tech from the distant future" time ship? I could almost (but not really) buy it coming from someone like Cisco or something, but Barry?

I mean, has there ever even been an incarnation of Barry Allen that was a super tech genius, even in an Elseworld sort of scenario?
 
tenmei said:
Except that Rip already tried to kill him later on - and the others have seen the implications of those actions. So it would be changing events in which they themselves were already involved which, it was suggested would be a very bad idea.
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Going back to years before the first time he tried to kill him wouldn't be events he was involved with.

Plus we've already seen the team do that multiple times without any major reality implosion. Professor Stein almost lost his wife, but didn't. Snart's past stayed exactly the same despite his interference. The whole 'you shouldn't tamper with events you participated in' rule is not holding up well at all so far. (There's also the whole original time travel story on The Flash, which had two different versions of the Flash plus young Barry participating in the same event)
 
Arrrrgggh said:
I also don't get the Gideon thing. How or even why would a criminal investigator have the know-how to not only create the world's most advanced AI, but one so advanced that it's used even in Rip Hunter's "the best tech from the distant future" time ship? I could almost (but not really) buy it coming from someone like Cisco or something, but Barry?

I mean, has there ever even been an incarnation of Barry Allen that was a super tech genius, even in an Elseworld sort of scenario?
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It's commonly believed that Barry Allen invented the cosmic treadmill, though I'm not sure if that was ever confirmed.
 
Barry has always been a Scientist, it's not impossible that he could make a breakthrough given enough uninterrupted time.

As a time traveler, Allen could also patent tech that he bought 200 years later at a curio shop. Of course, if anyone on the Justice League was going to pull that Back to the Future II shit, I'd put my money on Hal Jordan, because he's a ####.

McCoy "How do you know that HE didn't invent Transparent Aluminum?"

Right now with an Earth II science text book just sitting there at Star labs, Barry or Cisco or Caitlain or #####ing Joe could claim to have licked cold fusion just by xeroxing a few pages.
 
Guy Gardener said:
As a time traveler, Allen could also patent tech that he bought 200 years later at a curio shop. Of course, if anyone on the Justice League was going to pull that Back to the Future II shit, I'd put my money on Hal Jordan, because he's a ####.
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Don't you mean Pol Manning?
 
Booster (in the beginning) was a moron, he didn't sell future tech (even after Skeets broke, he just put all that tech into a cardboard box in his closet at the JLI Embassy (this really happened)), and he barely had any future information. Michael was a football jock, who barely got a job as a security guard. Not a brain trust. Although I do recall Booster saying that Judgement Day was one of the worst things to happen, and was part of even his general knowledge about hundreds of years ago in the past (the present).

Hal Jordan is an entitled ass#### who will morally invert the instant that things stop going his way, because he believes that he is more important than the entire universe. Jordan is basically a super villain who doesn't seem to have a reason currently to do anything super villainous. For those of us paying attention, Emerald Twilight was not a surprise at all.

Did not not know about Pol Manning, thank you. :)
 
I'm not sure why or how, but I've just started watching episode 4.

I am not gloating.

I am alerting those that know what to do, to start doing it.

If you don't know what to do, never mind.
 
1x04...

Very predicable.

I knew that they'd need translators and I figured that we'd see a Soviet version of the Firestorm project just like in the recent comics. Maybe next week we'll see that russian woman become a female Firestorm.

What do I think of the show so far? It's not the best but I like the cast (Garber, Routh, Purcell and Miller) and it's more Arrowverse. It's considerably less sophisticated than early Arrow though. The plot also moves along pretty fast. They certainly don't waste anytime with filler or any slow burn.

Gryffindorian said:
So is Hawkman/Carter ever coming back? I find it odd they would kill off one of the main characters this early in the series.
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Yeah, this is one part of the show that really got my attention and has me wondering what will happen.
 
They suck, they suck so hard.

In a recent issue of the Suicide Squad, Amanda Waller comments on how loud and messy her team is: "It's good cover. No one will believe that they work for us."

Valentina is the Doom Patrol's Negative Woman. She didn't seriously commit to the brand until the post crisi reboot, but She's been around places since then too including Checkmate. Firestorm comics in the 80s were all about Russia, for a time Ronnie even joined with a Russian (in Russia, no physical connection necessary to merge. Ronnie would just psionically drag him across the world to foil a bank robbery and then spit him back out to the USSR when he was finished. The KGB noticed Michale's unexplainable disappearances and started asking questions. )

If there are children reading, White Knights was an 80s movie about Gregory Hines and Michael Baryshnikov being held by the KGB until they danced at Gorbachev's birthday party.
 
A cast can only take a show so far. And just because it's Arrowverse, doesn't mean it gets a pass.

Let's not sugarcoat it. This show is fucking terrible. I guess Gotham no longer has to call itself the worst DC TV series. :shrug:
 
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