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After reading about the problems McDuffie had with DC regarding the League's roster, it got me thinking why not just have the Justice League book be in a separate or quasi-separate continuity. I mean, one of the major selling points of the JLA is having all of your major heroes in one book, especially if you can't afford to buy their individual books. But by tying the JLA so closely into continuity, or attempting, with the other DC books, I could see why McDuffie was so frustrated when he couldn't use some of the bigger characters. Though I wound up thinking the ones he got to use had the potential to be an interesting team. But the problem could've been avoided if DC had just divorced the major characters from continuity obligations. That also could've freed them up for Robinson if he felt inclined to use them.

McDuffie wrote about his problems with continuity here and his ideas here.

Thanks Shivkala. That was really cool. I think McDuffie was on to something regarding each book having its own continuity.
 
After reading about the problems McDuffie had with DC regarding the League's roster, it got me thinking why not just have the Justice League book be in a separate or quasi-separate continuity. I mean, one of the major selling points of the JLA is having all of your major heroes in one book, especially if you can't afford to buy their individual books. But by tying the JLA so closely into continuity, or attempting, with the other DC books, I could see why McDuffie was so frustrated when he couldn't use some of the bigger characters. Though I wound up thinking the ones he got to use had the potential to be an interesting team. But the problem could've been avoided if DC had just divorced the major characters from continuity obligations. That also could've freed them up for Robinson if he felt inclined to use them.

McDuffie wrote about his problems with continuity here and his ideas here.

Thanks Shivkala. That was really cool. I think McDuffie was on to something regarding each book having its own continuity.
Thats how they played it in the old days.
Heck even books featuring the same characters didn't share "continuity!!!!
 
Apparently Millar was very ill at one point, so Morrison filled in for him on several issues of some series. Millar then later went on to say that it never happened and that Morrison was basically full of shit.

No idea of how true the story is. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny?

I think from the various interviews, This is right. Morrison seems to have done work for Millar, probably not expecting credit, but Millar seems to have treated Morrison's work like his own. Or Millar stole things or ideas Morrison shared with him in confidence.

One thing from this interview Morrison has absolutely right is that comics are dying because of failed marketing in the digital age.

The online price needs to be dropped radically and there need to be special deals for access to back catalogues. Comics, books, music, newspapers, and magazines are actually on the verge of being able to make real money again, but the companies are still lost in this idea of selling a product and protecting rights. As soon as they start radically rethinking marketing and restructuring their business structure so they act like they are in the service industry instead, everyone will be much better off.
 
Apparently Millar was very ill at one point, so Morrison filled in for him on several issues of some series. Millar then later went on to say that it never happened and that Morrison was basically full of shit.

No idea of how true the story is. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny?

Well, Millar was sick back in December 2008 / January 2009, but I imagine that Morrison would be referring to his pitch for Ultimate Fantastic Four back in 2002.

One thing from this interview Morrison has absolutely right is that comics are dying because of failed marketing in the digital age.

The online price needs to be dropped radically and there need to be special deals for access to back catalogues. Comics, books, music, newspapers, and magazines are actually on the verge of being able to make real money again, but the companies are still lost in this idea of selling a product and protecting rights. As soon as they start radically rethinking marketing and restructuring their business structure so they act like they are in the service industry instead, everyone will be much better off.

I think that is a really great way to put it. I look at ComiXology on iPad, and all I see is a service that allows me to rent comics; I have no ownership and can't even read the things unless I have that app (and usually an internet connection somewhere). For me, it's like Netflix; so I think it should be treated like Netflix. Even considering the recent price increases, Netflix gives me a month of access to a ton more content; and I'm only paying the price of what...5 comic book downloads? It's ridiculous that I only get 5 comic books a month for the price of what Netflix offers in that same month.
 
Apparently Millar was very ill at one point, so Morrison filled in for him on several issues of some series. Millar then later went on to say that it never happened and that Morrison was basically full of shit.

No idea of how true the story is. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny?

Well, Millar was sick back in December 2008 / January 2009, but I imagine that Morrison would be referring to his pitch for Ultimate Fantastic Four back in 2002.

One thing from this interview Morrison has absolutely right is that comics are dying because of failed marketing in the digital age.

The online price needs to be dropped radically and there need to be special deals for access to back catalogues. Comics, books, music, newspapers, and magazines are actually on the verge of being able to make real money again, but the companies are still lost in this idea of selling a product and protecting rights. As soon as they start radically rethinking marketing and restructuring their business structure so they act like they are in the service industry instead, everyone will be much better off.

I think that is a really great way to put it. I look at ComiXology on iPad, and all I see is a service that allows me to rent comics; I have no ownership and can't even read the things unless I have that app (and usually an internet connection somewhere). For me, it's like Netflix; so I think it should be treated like Netflix. Even considering the recent price increases, Netflix gives me a month of access to a ton more content; and I'm only paying the price of what...5 comic book downloads? It's ridiculous that I only get 5 comic books a month for the price of what Netflix offers in that same month.
I have to admit, as much as I love Comixology, it does annoy me that I can only read the stuff on when I'm logged onto their website. I was kinda hoping that it would give me an Itunes type program that would store my comics in their own program, which is what the PSP comics did. I'm willing to put up with it since they only charge keep it at 2-5 dollars for a single issue, but TBH if it were any more than that I don't think I would do it.
 
McDuffie wrote about his problems with continuity here and his ideas here.

Thanks Shivkala. That was really cool. I think McDuffie was on to something regarding each book having its own continuity.
Thats how they played it in the old days.
Heck even books featuring the same characters didn't share "continuity!!!!

What really baked my noodle was learning that back in the '30's and '40's, the "universe" that we now call DC was actually published by three different companies! When the Justice Society debuted, they were actually creating the first inter-company cross-over. Weird, huh? It would be like an ongoing super-hero teambook coming out today that featured Superman, Spider-Man, and Hellboy.
 
After reading about the problems McDuffie had with DC regarding the League's roster, it got me thinking why not just have the Justice League book be in a separate or quasi-separate continuity. I mean, one of the major selling points of the JLA is having all of your major heroes in one book, especially if you can't afford to buy their individual books. But by tying the JLA so closely into continuity, or attempting, with the other DC books, I could see why McDuffie was so frustrated when he couldn't use some of the bigger characters. Though I wound up thinking the ones he got to use had the potential to be an interesting team. But the problem could've been avoided if DC had just divorced the major characters from continuity obligations. That also could've freed them up for Robinson if he felt inclined to use them.

McDuffie wrote about his problems with continuity here and his ideas here.

Thanks Shivkala. That was really cool. I think McDuffie was on to something regarding each book having its own continuity.

My problem is less with continuity and more with the current mindset that basically makes every series part of a crossover.
 
t would be like an ongoing super-hero teambook coming out today that featured Superman, Spider-Man, and Hellboy.
Ok, am I the only one who thinks that would be awesome?
No, not the only one. :)

In the late-90s, DC did a mini-series, inspired by Batman: The Long Halloween, called Superman/Batman: World's Finest. The idea was to show the developing relationship between Superman and Batman (and their respetive families) across the years. (It uses the same narrative conceit as One Day -- Superman and Batman get together on the anniversary of one of their early joint failures.)

I've thought that would be a great way to do a Superman/Spider-Man or Batman/Spider-Man crossover. Check in at year intervals to see how the characters have developed. I'd love to read something like that. Hell, I'd love to write something like that. (I'd personally want to write a Batman/Spider-Man crossover along those lines. The trick would be to find a reason why Bruce is in New York or why Peter is in Gotham each year or so.)
 
t would be like an ongoing super-hero teambook coming out today that featured Superman, Spider-Man, and Hellboy.
Ok, am I the only one who thinks that would be awesome?
No, not the only one. :)

In the late-90s, DC did a mini-series, inspired by Batman: The Long Halloween, called Superman/Batman: World's Finest. The idea was to show the developing relationship between Superman and Batman (and their respetive families) across the years. (It uses the same narrative conceit as One Day -- Superman and Batman get together on the anniversary of one of their early joint failures.)

I've thought that would be a great way to do a Superman/Spider-Man or Batman/Spider-Man crossover. Check in at year intervals to see how the characters have developed. I'd love to read something like that. Hell, I'd love to write something like that. (I'd personally want to write a Batman/Spider-Man crossover along those lines. The trick would be to find a reason why Bruce is in New York or why Peter is in Gotham each year or so.)

Easy. The Comic Book convention. Peter is a total nerd and he's in town for the Gotham Comic Book Convention.

For Bruce... um... He's big into Broadway. And checking out Spidey's musical.

Done and done.
 
You know, I was gonna say, "But wouldn't it be weird to have Gotham and New York together?" and then I realized NYC exists in the DC universe already.

What's the deal with that? Like, there are all these fake cities, but all the real ones still exist. Does the DCU United States have a population twenty or thirty million people larger than our own? I guess it makes sense. I'd want to move to the place with the Justice League named after it to, instead of all those Third World places that keep getting annihilated by the Vandal Savages and Jade Nguyens running around.

Of course, then there's Star City. And old Coast City. Guess I can revise that population estimate, huh?
 
I remember reading somewhere that DC's Earth is a bit larger than "our" Earth to accommodate all the made-up cities and countries. Honestly, it is one of those things best not to think about.
 
I remember reading somewhere that DC's Earth is a bit larger than "our" Earth to accommodate all the made-up cities and countries. Honestly, it is one of those things best not to think about.

LOL, I have heard that before too, but only ever on this board. It makes sense as an explanation, however.

Other than New York and Washington though, are any other US cities regularly mentioned?

I also always assume that places like Khandaq (or Wakanda in Marvel) are so tiny that they do not effect the map too much.
 
I remember reading somewhere that DC's Earth is a bit larger than "our" Earth to accommodate all the made-up cities and countries. Honestly, it is one of those things best not to think about.

LOL, I have heard that before too, but only ever on this board. It makes sense as an explanation, however.

Other than New York and Washington though, are any other US cities regularly mentioned?

L.A. gets a fair amount of play. It was the setting for Manhunter, amongst other things.

San Francisco was at least in that one JLA story with Asmodel and the Bull Host of Angels.

I also always assume that places like Khandaq (or Wakanda in Marvel) are so tiny that they do not effect the map too much.
Wakanda gets on my nerves. "We're technologically advanced because we've been isolated." Of course. That's why North Korea is the most technologically advanced state on Earth and how the Japanese were able to answer Perry's demands with a show of force put on by their Gundams.
 
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