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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

The 2006 movie didn't have confidence in that its own premise---Superman has been missing long enough for the world to move on without him.

That would have required making the supporting cast full-on adults, and not trapped in a state of Donner suspended animation.

The casting of the movie undercut the very premise with Lois and Jimmy seeming just as young (or younger) as in every other iteration.

Singer wanted to live in 1978 (while audiences did not), instead of casting for characters who should be older, wiser and not looking for Superman to float down to earth and flash the "S" emblem like the cutout marketing image the character was in certain bygone eras (instead of fleshed-out, realistic character).

Apparently, Singer inhaling the fumes of 1978 prevented him from reading the room, where a clear nose/mind would've allowed him to discover the obvious: superhero content and most importantly, the fans changed out of creative desire, cultural necessity, and would not find his love letter to all things Salkind appealing to those who do not live in that halcyonic dream world--one that was not aging well less than a decade after its premiere.


I think it would have been much more effect to have, say, Dana Delany playing Lois. And have her as editor of the Planet as well.

Lois as the editor would have been an interesting change.
 
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If he'd done that, then it wouldn't be his attempt to recreate Donner's movie, and then he'd actually have to give a darn about the characters. He didn't.
 
Bryan Singer's X-Men movie was probably only good due to David Hayter's screenplay.


Hmmm . . . I don't know. I thought the 2000 movie was okay, but it felt like an expensive "B" movie, instead of an "A" one. And I found the plot a bit questionable.


Apparently, Singer inhaling the fumes of 1978 prevented him from reading the room, where a clear nose/mind would've allowed him to discover the obvious: superhero content and most importantly, the fans changed out of creative desire, cultural necessity, and would not find his love letter to all things Salkind appealing to those who do not live in that halcyonic dream world--one that was not aging well less than a decade after its premiere.

This is one reason why I have a problem with the whole nostalgia factor.
 
Hmmm . . . I don't know. I thought the 2000 movie was okay, but it felt like an expensive "B" movie, instead of an "A" one. And I found the plot a bit questionable.

Well, yeah.

"Magneto had a machine that makes mutants...oh wait, it really turns them into goo. Oops!"

And then X2 repeats it with "Magneto has a machine of DOOOOM!" thing again.

This is one reason why I have a problem with the whole nostalgia factor.

It really comes down to how the nostalgia is used. Stranger Things took 80s nostalgia and did quite well with it (at first, anyways). It served the characters and the plot, rather than the characters and plot being secondary to the nostalgia.
 
Stranger Things took 80s nostalgia and did quite well with it (at first, anyways). It served the characters and the plot, rather than the characters and plot being secondary to the nostalgia

Stranger Things isnt a 'nostalgia fest'; it's a period piece.

X2 repeats it with "Magneto has a machine of DOOOOM!" thing again

Not really.

X2's plot is driven by Colonel Stryker, with Magneto only appropriating the Colonel's plans for his own ends at the Eleventh Hour.
 
Stranger Things isnt a 'nostalgia fest'; it's a period piece.

The 2006 movie was trying to be a period piece as well with its aesthetics and general feel. Didn't work.

X2's plot is driven by Colonel Stryker, with Magneto only appropriating the Colonel's plans for his own ends at the Eleventh Hour.
Except Stryker is the inciting person.

Which still doesn't mean the climax isn't "Stopping Magneto's new Doom Machine".
 
It's similar only in broad strokes.

Yeah, they needed that contrived ending where Jean decided to use her TK to hold back the water instead of lift the far lighter Blackbird jet out of the way.

Or...Storm makes the Cerebro room super cold to stop Jason instead of just walking over and smacking him in the head to knock him out. Which cost them precious time.

Or the X-Men breaking into the White House to bully the President like a bunch of terrorists.
 
A new Flash TV spot has aired, featuring mostly previously-seen footage, but including this nice new shot of Supergirl (click to enlarge):

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Not to mention most of the movie coming out now also probably have a lot more and more complex VFX shots that they're trying to in probably the same or less amount of time.
 
Yeah, they needed that contrived ending where Jean decided to use her TK to hold back the water instead of lift the far lighter Blackbird jet out of the way.

Or...Storm makes the Cerebro room super cold to stop Jason instead of just walking over and smacking him in the head to knock him out. Which cost them precious time.

Or the X-Men breaking into the White House to bully the President like a bunch of terrorists.
Sooo....not like the ending of the first movie at all.

Though, yeah, the ending with the President is way creepier in retrospect.
 
Not to mention most of the movie coming out now also probably have a lot more and more complex VFX shots that they're trying to in probably the same or less amount of time.
Marvel movies are basically animated movies that don't have animated movie timelines to complete the film.
 
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"....give them hope, that when they look to the sunrise..

the Superman will be there."
 
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