DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[Noname Given]

I’m torn on how I see Snyder’s apparent unwillingness to let this drop. Part of me thinks it’s a bit sad and that he really should move on. But part of me admires the fact that he clearly feels so passionately about it and still hopes to see his vision onscreen.

I think even Zack Snyder understands that it would cost a lot of money to finish the effects needed, etc. and he and WB have moved on. Understand that Mamoa probably saw a rough cut with plenty of "scene mussing" slugs or rough animatics (at best) for SFX scenes, and shots of him and others standing in front of a green screen.

WB may consider it throwing good money after bad because the post production and fabrication costs are more then they'd expect to get IF they put it out there for sale.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I think even Zack Snyder understands that it would cost a lot of money to finish the effects needed, etc. and he and WB have moved on. Understand that Mamoa probably saw a rough cut with plenty of "scene mussing" slugs or rough animatics (at best) for SFX scenes, and shots of him and others standing in front of a green screen.

WB may consider it throwing good money after bad because the post production and fabrication costs are more then they'd expect to get IF they put it out there for sale.

Snyder quote-tweeted both Gadot and Affleck, implying that he too wants the Snyder cut released. He also continues to regularly release photos from his films, which doesn’t really suggest that he’s ready to move on.

 

[Christopher]

Sure sounds presentable enough to me...

Based on what? I see nothing in that interview that establishes that. The only thing he says about its completeness is "you think Zack couldn't finish it?" Not "didn't finish it," which would mean it already happened, but "couldn't finish it," which means he's talking about the potential for finishing it in the future if WB was willing to let Snyder do so. And then he gets evasive with "Next question," which is far from convincing.

Understand that Mamoa probably saw a rough cut with plenty of "scene mussing" slugs or rough animatics (at best) for SFX scenes, and shots of him and others standing in front of a green screen.

Exactly. Industry pros can appreciate something like that because they're used to seeing such unfinished cuts and can look beyond the imperfections to what the finished product could be. That doesn't mean it would be presentable to the general public, the same public that ripped WB apart for Superman's digital upper lip.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Asking to release the Snyder Cut is like asking to see Batman V Superman again. Why would you do that to yourself?

 

[crookeddy]

Asking to release the Snyder Cut is like asking to see Batman V Superman again. Why would you do that to yourself?

Because we enjoyed that movie?

 

[dahj]

Based on what?

On the same comments which you somehow chose to interpret as Momoa being a dumbass who can't recognize a movie he's watched couldn't be released without significant investment, but you can without even seeing it...

So whatever, literally anything I type, quote or point to is gonna fall on deaf ears with some of you folks, so I'm just gonna say the fact that Snyder himself is campaigning for it now should register with any sensible person that he feels releasing it is feasible and I'd say he probably knows more than random people on the internet on how much it would take to finish it, and would that be a prohibitively expensive endeavour.

 

[mtblillie]

Asking to release the Snyder Cut is like asking to see Batman V Superman again. Why would you do that to yourself?

I thought the director's cut was pretty good. The cinematic version was just confusing.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I thought the director's cut was pretty good. The cinematic version was just confusing.

For me, I have zero faith that Snyder could deliver a movie I would enjoy. He hasn't yet.

 

[The Realist]

No doubt to the surprise of some, I would really like to see the Snyder cut of Justice League. By all indications, it would be a vastly different movie than the theatrical release, and would at least be more of a piece with its predecessors than the enjoyable-but-ramshackle Whedon reworking. Would I like it? Probably not, but it would be an interesting watch, at the very least.

 

[Christopher]

On the same comments which you somehow chose to interpret as Momoa being a dumbass who can't recognize a movie he's watched couldn't be released without significant investment, but you can without even seeing it...

Turning it against me is an evasion tactic; you still haven't answered the question of what you perceive in his comments that in any way indicates the film is finished.

And saying that industry professionals have more experience viewing and appreciating rough cuts of films is exactly the opposite of calling them dumb.

So whatever, literally anything I type, quote or point to is gonna fall on deaf ears with some of you folks,

Unwarranted. I have no skin in this game either way; I really couldn't care less if there's a Snyder cut or not, because I'd have no interest in seeing it if it were released.

 

[fireproof78]

I think even Zack Snyder understands that it would cost a lot of money to finish the effects needed, etc. and he and WB have moved on. Understand that Mamoa probably saw a rough cut with plenty of "scene mussing" slugs or rough animatics (at best) for SFX scenes, and shots of him and others standing in front of a green screen.

WB may consider it throwing good money after bad because the post production and fabrication costs are more then they'd expect to get IF they put it out there for sale.

Exactly. I'm sure the edit is well done, but the effects shots are going to take more time and money to invest in the project. I wouldn't blame WB for holding off.

 

[Christopher]

I'm sure the edit is well done,

It's not a matter of skill, just incompleteness. An early, rough cut isn't yet in a presentable form no matter how skilled the filmmaker, just as an undercooked meal isn't yet ready to be eaten no matter how gifted the cook. It's not finished until it's finished.

 

[fireproof78]

It's not a matter of skill, just incompleteness. An early, rough cut isn't yet in a presentable form no matter how skilled the filmmaker, just as an undercooked meal isn't yet ready to be eaten no matter how gifted the cook. It's not finished until it's finished.

That wasn't my point but you are right of course.

 

[Gaith]

I wonder how much it would cost to realistically "finish" the Snyder cut - as in, not polish it up to cinema-level quality with photoreal CG, as I highly doubt any executive would finance such a surefire money loser, but to make the live-action footage presentable to a, say, Arrowverse episode standard, and to animate the incomplete action sequences to the level of those direct-to-video flicks DC churns out several times a year, getting the cast back to voice/ADR any incomplete/needed dialogue. Surely that could be done for a few million... and is that the kind of endgame Snyder and the cast have in mind?

 

[Professor Zoom]

Seems like a no win situation to release the “Snyder Cut.” If it’s worse than what we have, it’s a waste of money and if it’s better, lol, then it will look like Warners made a mistake getting Whedon.

It’s interesting from an academic place to see it, but from a business sense, seems silly.

 

[fireproof78]

Seems like a no win situation to release the “Snyder Cut.” If it’s worse than what we have, it’s a waste of money and if it’s better, lol, then it will look like Warners made a mistake getting Whedon.

It’s interesting from an academic place to see it, but from a business sense, seems silly.

It's a grass is always greener situation.

 

[thribs]

Where’s his $500 shirt and sun glasses?

 

[Nerys Myk]

Where’s his $500 shirt and sun glasses?

Not part of the costume. But would it hurt to give him buccaneer boots?

 

[Professor Zoom]

It's a grass is always greener situation.

And it rarely is.

 

[fireproof78]

And it rarely is.

Oh, it never is. It will never live up to the hype.