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DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

I’ve always liked Batman and Robin. It’s just a lot of fun. I’d rather watch that than the “grounded” takes on the character.
 
thribs said:
To be fair, DC have been doing it longer than Marvel has
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Most people don't know that though. My wife (who only recently has it straight that Batman, Wonder Woman et al are in one universe and Iron Man, Captain Marvel, and Black Panther are in another universe) said "this movie is just copying Spider-Man" before the trailer was even finished.

Of course, I got all indignant and said that DC had a multiverse decades before Marvel. She replied "So Marvel just does its multiverse better?" and it turned into a whole thing.
 
I also believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that DC was the first to cross over various existing live-action "universes" on screen, in the Arrowverse's "Crisis on Infinite Earths," before it was done in any of the Marvel movies. But of course, the latter were seen by many, many more people than watched "CoIE" on The CW.
 
The Realist said:
I also believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that DC was the first to cross over various existing live-action "universes" on screen, in the Arrowverse's "Crisis on Infinite Earths," before it was done in any of the Marvel movies.
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Between DC and Marvel, yes, the Arrowverse certainly did it first. Years before Crisis, they started bringing in cast members from the 1990 The Flash TV series to play alternate versions of the same characters within the modern Flash continuity, and as they started building the idea of the multiverse, it became more strongly implied that the 1990 show was a parallel universe of the modern show, eventually made explicit in the Elseworlds crossover a year before Crisis.

Beyond those, there are earlier examples of alternate live-action continuities being treated as parallel universes. The Japanese Ultraman franchise started doing it in 1999 with a movie that crossed over the universe of Ultraman Tiga and Ultraman Dyna with the separate universe of Ultraman Gaia, and after that it became increasingly common to treat different seasons/series in the franchise as parallel universes rather than simply different fictional continuities. Other Japanese superhero franchises like Kamen Rider and Super Sentai have followed suit in their later crossovers within themselves and between each other.

In the early 2010s, the Ben 10 animated series established that the two live-action Ben 10 TV movies took place in an alternate reality (or two) from the animated series, even though the first live-action movie had been claimed at the time to be within the animated canon. But that's crossing a live-action universe with an animated one, so it's not quite the same.
 
The Realist said:
I also believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that DC was the first to cross over various existing live-action "universes" on screen, in the Arrowverse's "Crisis on Infinite Earths," before it was done in any of the Marvel movies. But of course, the latter were seen by many, many more people than watched "CoIE" on The CW.
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Technically, the first live action superhero crossover (and cross-license) production involving DC was the Dozier Batman episodes "A Piece of the Action" / "Batman's Satisfaction" (1967) where the Green Hornet and Kato paid a memorable visit to Gotham City.
 
JoeZhang said:
I bet it's for $$$$ reasons - "buy the extended bluray!"
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No, probably just for runtime, as Kai said. It would've been a nonessential grace note that would mean nothing to the majority of the filmgoing audience, and something like that is always the first to go in the editing process.
 
Christopher said:
No, probably just for runtime, as Kai said. It would've been a nonessential grace note that would mean nothing to the majority of the filmgoing audience, and something like that is always the first to go in the editing process.
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The thing is... it would have provided plenty of free publicity, and created some positive hype.

Though the number of TV fans might be relatively small, the social media buzz would have helped elevate the hype.

How much would have filming the scene have cost? It would have been worth adding to the digital release (and again, add more positive buzz to make it worth it)
 
Christopher said:
Not at all, because the expectations are different. If you go to see a new performance of a Shakespeare play, say, then you expect them to perform the same dialogue. But if you're going to see a new story in a series, you want to see the characters saying and doing new things. If a familiar character is returning, you want them to be true to the characterizations you remember, but reducing that to parroting catchphrases is a shallow substitute for actual characterization.

Don't get me wrong, a catchphrase can work well if it's used in a meaningful context, if it's earned. But if it's blatantly just tacked on to get a rise out of the audience, that's cheap and manipulative.
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Or it's just a fun call back to the character's earlier appearance(s) that only takes a few seconds and does no real harm to the character or movie.
thribs said:
I’ve always liked Batman and Robin. It’s just a lot of fun. I’d rather watch that than the “grounded” takes on the character.
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Glad to know I'm not the only one who enjoys Batman & Robin. A little while before I watched it someone called it a big budget reboot of the '60s TV series, and if you approach that way, instead of expecting a darker, more grounded take on the characters, it's a lot of fun.
 
Set Harth said:
You should have gone all Hank Pym on her ass!
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I hate to be the one to do this, but from someone who grew up with a mother in an abusive relationship, I don't find the comment amusing.

In my current home, my spouse is literally someone whose favorite hero is Aquaman from Superfriends and who never cared about Marvel or DC. My kids who are now 16 have been coming to Marvel movies (and some DC--such as Aquaman) with us since Age of Ultron. For years, their Mom always asked if Batman was going to be in the movie so it became a family gag. Now their Mom knows whose in DC and whose in Marvel, but every time we go to the movie the twins make a joke about Batman being in the movie.
 
If Robert Pattinson, Christian Bale, George Clooney, Val Kilmer, Michael Keaton, Adam West, Robert Lowery, and Lewis Wilson are secretly always playing Batman, then that's not to far from the truth.
 
Starscream2112 said:
I thought he had finish the script.
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No script is truly finished until the day the film is sent to theaters. Rewriting during production is a normal part of the process. Star Trek 2009 was filmed during a writers' strike, so they couldn't make script changes during filming the normal way, and thus they had to make what tweaks they could with post-production redubbing after the strike ended.
 
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