DC Movies - To Infinity and Beyond

[The Scottish Nightmare]

Yeah but that movie is just his send off.
I don’t think think we will get another Cavil movie. This is them telling us they have moved on. I mean he isn’t even in Flashpoint

 

[Saul]

Yeah but that movie is just his send off.
I don’t think think we will get another Cavil movie. This is them telling us they have moved on. I mean he isn’t even in Flashpoint

There are still rumors that Affleck will do a HBO Batman series. I don't think we will ever get a Cavil Superman movie but I do think he'll return in some capacity.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Obviously the Superman news is the main thing a lot of people are focussing on in this story, but almost hidden in there was a reference to a planned Joker sequel

Joker was amazing, but there is zero need for any kind of sequel.

Except making money of course, which is the whole point.

 

[theenglish]

A Joker sequel with Batman could be interesting, but we've done that before.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Joker was amazing, but there is zero need for any kind of sequel.

Except making money of course, which is the whole point.

I agree and I got the impression that both the star and director felt the same, viewing it as a one-off. I can see them moving off without Philips but I imagine that Phoenix is irreplaceable (in a sequel to this film, not as the character generally, of course).

 

[Christopher]

Yeah but that movie is just his send off.
I don’t think think we will get another Cavil movie. This is them telling us they have moved on. I mean he isn’t even in Flashpoint

That is supposition, not fact. Until it becomes a fact, the possibility remains. Things can change unpredictably in Hollywood. A year and a half ago, it seemed highly unlikely that the Snyder Cut would ever be released.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Another actor will play a popular role, so that somehow means that the previous actor will never get to play that role again? Between Brandon Routh's Superman in CoIE and Michael Keaton's Batman in The Flash movie, never say never again.

 

[The Scottish Nightmare]

That is supposition, not fact. Until it becomes a fact, the possibility remains. Things can change unpredictably in Hollywood. A year and a half ago, it seemed highly unlikely that the Snyder Cut would ever be released.

I had hope it will be. I’m just amazed it took them so long .

 

[Christopher]

I had hope it will be. I’m just amazed it took them so long .

And I doubted it ever would be. I was wrong about that; you could be wrong about this. The universe does not shape itself to fit any one person's expectations, so we should never mistake those expectations for objective truths. When it comes to the future, we can acknowledge that one possibility is more likely than another, but we should remain aware that circumstances might change and shift the probabilities in another direction.

 

[GhoulEddie74]

A Joker sequel with Batman could be interesting, but we've done that before.

Although a Joker sequel set forty years after the first movie would allow Joaquin Phoenix to come back and face a Bruce Wayne and Batman that are now approaching middle age yet retaining memories of that first encounter at the gate of Wayne Manor in 1981.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Although a Joker sequel set forty years after the first movie would allow Joaquin Phoenix to come back and face a Bruce Wayne and Batman that are now approaching middle age yet retaining memories of that first encounter at the gate of Wayne Manor in 1981.

Would he be in his 80s?

 

[GhoulEddie74]

He'd be under makeup. It wouldn't matter all that much.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

I think it was more about racism in our world (specifically the US) in general than a direct comment on a handful of bitter comic book fans who don't like the replacement character of their favourite hero. It's quite an indirect comment on that, at best.

I was referring to Kai's comment about some being alienated (or alienating themselves) with the casting of this new Superman movie because he will be black, and although Sam Wilson's comment was both in-universe and about the racial views of the real world, I also gathered it was a comment about fans of this franchise who would resent the fact Sam became the new Captain America. In fact, over the years, there have been some very vocal MCU fans who wanted Bucky to be the next Captain America, always trying to find imagined faults with Sam, in the face of what happened in the comics.

 

[Zombie Cheerleader]

Marc Bernardin from Fatman Beyond pointed out that it might be easier to have a black Superman than a black Batman because the Waynes were rich from old money made off the backs of slaves.

Depends on how old the money is. Some black fortunes go back a century. (Remember, it's 2021) The Wayne's just have to be rich they don't need to be 18th Century original rich.
IIRC, part of the Wayne family backstory is being Abolitionists and involved in the Underground Railroad. I think the future Batcave might have even been a "station" on the railroad.

 

[crookeddy]

Depends on how old the money is. Some black fortunes go back a century. (Remember, it's 2021) The Wayne's just have to be rich they don't need to be 18th Century original rich.
IIRC, part of the Wayne family backstory is being Abolitionists and involved in the Underground Railroad. I think the future Batcave might have even been a "station" on the railroad.

I think that was from the Nolan movies?

 

[crookeddy]

What if the Joker sequel has Batman but get this... as the antagonist...

 

[Zombie Cheerleader]

I think that was from the Nolan movies?

A source I found shows it being from Legends of the Dark Knight # 27 (1992)

 

[Christopher]

Depends on how old the money is. Some black fortunes go back a century. (Remember, it's 2021) The Wayne's just have to be rich they don't need to be 18th Century original rich.

Or a hereditarily rich white Thomas Wayne could've married a black Martha Kane, and Bruce would be biracial. Or Thomas could be the biracial one, making Bruce only 1/4 white while still inheriting the centuries-old Wayne fortune. Or a black Thomas could've been adopted by Bruce's white grandparents. There are a number of ways it could work, in addition to your suggestion.

 

[theenglish]

I was referring to Kai's comment about some being alienated (or alienating themselves) with the casting of this new Superman movie because he will be black, and although Sam Wilson's comment was both in-universe and about the racial views of the real world, I also gathered it was a comment about fans of this franchise who would resent the fact Sam became the new Captain America. In fact, over the years, there have been some very vocal MCU fans who wanted Bucky to be the next Captain America, always trying to find imagined faults with Sam, in the face of what happened in the comics.

Was there any backlash when Sam took over the shield in the comics?

 

[The Scottish Nightmare]

Was there any backlash when Sam took over the shield in the comics?

In the comics they change roles all the time so I doubt people cared. I mean a few years before that, Bucky was Cap. Steve was killed in Civil War and he took over, only for him to die in Fear Itself and Steve took it back. I forget how he came back.