DC - Convergence Spring Event
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It really depends on the creative teams. Justice League had Frank Tieri so it was naturally going to be bad.
Question, Harley Quinn and Nightwing-Oracle I thought were especially good.
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Here's all you really need to know about World's End Earth 2:
Darkseid brought Apokolips to Earth 2, invaded and destroyed it. A dimensional ship launched and carried away a few hundred thousand survivors to... who knows where.
The few heroes here stayed behind and fought a delaying action to give the ship a chance to get away. When last seen, they were in the process of being overwhelmed by Darkseid and his forces.
Personally I've never been a huge version of what if versions of existing characters. They don't really "count" to me.
I didn't bother with those since they are not characters I am particularly interested in. I have about a 15 year gap in my knowledge of DC history since I took a long break from comics starting in the mid to late 90s. For me, Vic Sage is The Question.
I'm not interested in the main event, but I'm a total sucker for seeing some of my favorite, now rewritten characters in the tie-ins, so I've ordered a ton of those. Oracle! Connor Hawke! ELONGATED MAN!!!
I think that about sums it up.
Is there anything in this event that is actually going to have an affect on the main continuity--or is it basically a separate event?
after reading up on this event, apparently DC did it so their mainline books wouldn't be affected during their big move out west. This will mostly be separate; there won't be any involvement at from the New 52 'verse.
Thanks--that's what I thought originally but then there were all these articles talking about how all the stories are connected. I'll keep reading the reviews here but I think I will be sitting out these couple of months.
It's essentially filler to pad out the time while DC moves their HQ to Burbank.
Yep. It's dressed up filler to cover the move. Nothing really is meant to seep into the main continuity...which is why BC nicknamed it the band-aid project when they first started reporting on it.
I decided to get the first issue along with the zero issue and I'm getting "Superman" along with "Batman and Robin". That's pretty much it.
I decided to get the first issue along with the zero issue and I'm getting "Superman" along with "Batman and Robin". That's pretty much it.
No. This was meant to show various realities across the Multiverse (mainly the Pre-Flashpoint DCU) but not a crossover of the two main continuities. As mentioned before, and documented in the 52'Verse thread with several links from BC and elsewhere, this is merely a dressed up filler event to cover the move to Burbank. DC has done press telling us that things will matter and there will be consequences to "Convergence" but Rich has been pretty adamant from the start to ignore this press. I'd not even call this an "event". It's simply fancy filler. It's also why there are no real marquee creators on these books and has a rag tag collection of creators instead.
Their ACTUAL event when it starts in July will be "The Darkseid War".
Their ACTUAL event when it starts in July will be "The Darkseid War".
The only books where convergence will have any effect will probably be Earth-2 and anything written by Lobdell.
The second biggest selling point of this event, for me, is that its basically a break from the horrible New 52 universe. The biggest selling point is getting the real DC heroes back, even if only for awhile. I've read every Convergence issue this week. Here are my thoughts on each issue, in the order I read them (with spoilers).
Convergence #1:
Batgirl #1:
Batman & Robin #1:
The Titans #1:
Speed Force #1:
Justice League #1:
The Question #1:
Harley Quinn #1:
The Atom #1:
Nightwing & Oracle #1:
Superman #1:
Overall, I intend to read the second issues of all of these, except Justice League. My favorites were probably Superman, Nightwing & Oracle, The Question and The Titans. The main book isn't very interesting so far, but its not why I'm reading the event anyway. Overall, I enjoyed this week. At the very least, it was some decent books with what feel like actual DC heroes, and we get time off from the New 52. It wasn't quite as good as DC's pre-52 Universe at its best, but its better than 90% of the stuff DC has published in years, at least in my opinion.
Convergence #1:
Not very good, but not terrible. The main story is probably the thing about Convergence I'm least interested in.
Batgirl #1:
The art was unacceptably lazy at points, and even on average it wasn't very good. Stephanie just randomly quitting being a hero because...of a lion attack, I guess, didn't really make sense for the character, at least in my opinion. Batgirl was also very smug about not needing to fight or be a hero anymore, which again seemed weird. Overall, this wasn't great, and Batgirl felt out of character for most of it. Still, I'll read the second issue.
Batman & Robin #1:
The story wasn't terrible, and its big problems mostly weren't its fault. I'm just pretty tired of Damien acting like a brat, and of course we get a reminder that Morrison ruined Red Hood by turning him into a complete psychopath with a mentally disturbed "sidekick". I give lobdell a lot of deserved criticism, but he still writes a better Red Hood than the version Morrison left the pre-Reboot DC with when he was done with him. At least Jason wasn't dressed like an idiot anymore. Besides that, the story was decent, although I don't think Ivy would be that helpful in a crisis. Also, the "extremists" were lame. Why not use the actual group, which were JL Europe villains that have shown up a few more times over the years? Its like they found a name they liked, but decided to fill the group with really lame villains instead of the decent (admittedly Marvel knock off) villains of the original group. I'll read the next issue.
The Titans #1:
Ok, well, I guess the real Extremists did show up in Gotham, but in this book. I have no idea why they made a new group if they were planning to use the original. Was it to be clever? Was it Lazy? Did someone screw up and they didn't realize the other book was using another team? I don't know, but I was glad to see them. This was a decent book, which isn't surprising since I generally like Fabian Nicieza's work. It was nice to see the real Starfire and Roy, along with seeing Donna Troy again. It seems like Roy has recovered from being the idiot he was when the reboot happened, which is nice. The ending was a bit weird, but I don't think it will end up being what it seems. Its probably a trick on Roy's part. I'll definitely read the next issue.
Speed Force #1:
This was ok. Not great, but decent. It was nice seeing Wally and his kids again. I'm fine with goofy stuff in books, so the turtle interacting with them wasn't a problem for me. I'll read the next issue.
Justice League #1:
Ugh. Even as a fan of Zatanna, Jade and Jesse Quick, this was painful. The art was actually better than several of the other books, although people looked angry at inappropriate times for some reason, and of course the average skimpy clothes thing you expect nowadays (except Zatanna, who is basically more dignified looking than the New 52 version has ever been). I don't think I'll be reading the second issue of this one.
The Question #1:
I thought this was pretty good. I liked seeing Renee as The Question again, and her stuff with Two-Face was interesting, although its weird that effecting a coin toss was part of the dome's abilities. Seeing Pre-52 Huntress and batwoman was also cool. I kind of wish the old batwoman writers were involved, they'd probably work in a line about Batwoman being married as a middle finger to the idiots in charge of DC. I'll definitely be reading the next issue.
Harley Quinn #1:
This was ok. It didn't quite feel like the pre-reboot harley Quinn, but it was closer than the stupid New 52 version. The art was also decent. I'll read the second issue.
The Atom #1:
This one was weird. I don't know if making Ray Palmer act like a nut, and giving him a growing hand, was a particularly good idea. Still, it kept my attention, and I'm curious to see what will happen next. I'll read the next issue.
Nightwing & Oracle #1:
This was pretty good. The art was good, which was nice. The evil Hawkman and Hawkwoman were a bit ridiculous, especially with how strong they were. Still, like with so many of these mini's it was nice to see Nightwing and Oracle again, and both were written well (Oracle especially was a breath of fresh air after a few years of the in-name-only Barbara Gordon from Batgirl). I'll definitely be reading the next issue.
Superman #1:
I enjoyed Superman. He felt like the real deal, which the new 52 version Never has. This issue only had one problem, and its admittedly a nitpick. When Superman was attacked by Captain Thunder from the Flashpoint universe, he almost called him Shazam. This is the pre-reboot normal DCU Superman, he should have tried to call him Captain Marvel or Billy, he never would have called him Shazam. I mean, if he thought it was Freddy Freeman, who was going around as "Shazam" right before the reboot I'd accept it, but he obviously thought he was looking at Cap.
It can't be some weird DC rule against using the name Captain Marvel, because Grant Morrison only called him captain Marvel in the Multiversity: Thunderworld book. Its not a huge deal, but since Captain Marvel is my favorite DC hero it was a noticeable nitpick. Besides that, this was an enjoyable issue. Its the Superman that's been missing for almost 4 years, except in the Adventures of Superman digital comic that got cancelled. I'll definitely be reading the second issue.
It can't be some weird DC rule against using the name Captain Marvel, because Grant Morrison only called him captain Marvel in the Multiversity: Thunderworld book. Its not a huge deal, but since Captain Marvel is my favorite DC hero it was a noticeable nitpick. Besides that, this was an enjoyable issue. Its the Superman that's been missing for almost 4 years, except in the Adventures of Superman digital comic that got cancelled. I'll definitely be reading the second issue.
Overall, I intend to read the second issues of all of these, except Justice League. My favorites were probably Superman, Nightwing & Oracle, The Question and The Titans. The main book isn't very interesting so far, but its not why I'm reading the event anyway. Overall, I enjoyed this week. At the very least, it was some decent books with what feel like actual DC heroes, and we get time off from the New 52. It wasn't quite as good as DC's pre-52 Universe at its best, but its better than 90% of the stuff DC has published in years, at least in my opinion.
