DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)
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So i jus watched Creature Commandos...
To me, this was a "scam" by James Gunn to get a pet project done, before a possible failure of the DCOU.
He totally fooled Zaslav into making this . Gunn seemd to me have written this as he was writing The Suicide Squad, possibly as a sequel to TSS,
It VERY much feels like James' Gunn's personal humor and tastes.. A lot of references from the 80's. Unnecessary sex. & swearing plus lots of callous death....
He makes jokes against right wing sterotypes, but then creates a show that appeals to many of their desires.
Definitely some good reasons why this has not been heralded as the beginning of the DCOU.
My family was excited to see Guardians of the Galaxy 3, for example, when it opened. But i am glad i saw this furst... i dont think my family would gather 'round the TV to wacth it.
I am gonna assume that he will have acomplete tale for this season, but of course be open to a 2nd season, if somehow he is able to justify it (like a $2 billion Superman movie, or if this gets better ratings that Peacemaker).
Gunn definitley leaves a lot of The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker in tact.... not sure if he will leave Circe open as a future Woder WOman villain.
To me, this was a "scam" by James Gunn to get a pet project done, before a possible failure of the DCOU.
He totally fooled Zaslav into making this . Gunn seemd to me have written this as he was writing The Suicide Squad, possibly as a sequel to TSS,
It VERY much feels like James' Gunn's personal humor and tastes.. A lot of references from the 80's. Unnecessary sex. & swearing plus lots of callous death....
He makes jokes against right wing sterotypes, but then creates a show that appeals to many of their desires.
Definitely some good reasons why this has not been heralded as the beginning of the DCOU.
My family was excited to see Guardians of the Galaxy 3, for example, when it opened. But i am glad i saw this furst... i dont think my family would gather 'round the TV to wacth it.
I am gonna assume that he will have acomplete tale for this season, but of course be open to a 2nd season, if somehow he is able to justify it (like a $2 billion Superman movie, or if this gets better ratings that Peacemaker).
Gunn definitley leaves a lot of The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker in tact.... not sure if he will leave Circe open as a future Woder WOman villain.
I watched the first two Creature Commandos episodes and they were fine. I am disappointed that it is not something a family with young kids can watch together. Also it does seem that he is keeping Peacemaker and the Suicide Squad as canon.
It leaves them o-u-t out. Gunn's been clear that scene is the primary thing -- perhaps the only thing -- from Peacemaker's first season that is not canon to his new DCU.
Gunn Decanonized it... though i suspect that if Superman takes off (pun intended), and we get a successful Justice League, then he might re-do that scene with 2 new actors in the DCOU.
Umm, i wonder, though, if the "deleted" part is JUST Miller & Momoa...the League were in shadows, so that part could still theoretically still work.
During the Happy Sad Confused podcast I posted earlier, Gunn said the Justice League did not exist yet in the DCU. Although, he also said there was no Big Bad the way the MCU had with Thanos for its first decade (and tried to do with Kang), that there was no big arc to the DCU, so there is a chance that, when they come to it, they might retroactively say the Justice League existed all along.
Meanwhile, DC Studios also just launched its own official podcast with Showcase (nicely titled):
Meanwhile, DC Studios also just launched its own official podcast with Showcase (nicely titled):
Viewers online have already noted that David Corenswet's Superman and Titan's Starfire can be seen on monitor's in Creature Commandos, marking their "debuts" ahead of their "Official" appearances in next year's 'Superman'.
I imagine Zaslav has something to do with MAX? He/she needs programming for the network, and WB gets something out there to build publicity heading towards the new Superman film.
Seems like it is working the way it is supposed to. No scams involved.
Zazlav is the CEO of WB/Discovery.
James Gunn is the guy who gave made Rocket & Groot work in 3 live actions movies, and Starro in The Suicide Squad, so if anyone can take the crazy Silver Age Superman stuff and make it work, it's him.
I watched part of a video he posted on his Instagram, and Gunn said that he started working on both Creature Commandos and Superman before he was put in charge of the DCU.
I can't think of anything James Gunn has made that's appropriate for young kids, the only things he's made that aren't R are the Guardians of the Galaxy stuff, and PG Porn and I'm not sure if I'd really consider those appropriate for young kids. He did write the Scooby Doo movies, but he was just a hired gun or Gunn I guess, so they weren't really his movies.
Except Creature COmmandos seems like the type of thing Zaslav would NOT want to fund. I mean, the guy killed the Batgirl movie so he could get a tax writeoff.
I see this as Gunn's negotiations with Zaslav. Gunn gets his pet project done... especially if he already had the story laid out,
he had this and Peacemaker, which is suppsoed to be out in August. So if Superman fails, Gunn at least got 2 of the things he wanted to work on out of the way. If Superman is successful, I suspect those 2 might get more seasons. If SUperman fails expectations (like ONLY makes 900 million), then Gunn will at least be able to walk away satisfied.
I have no doubt CC was a pet project of Gunn, done the way he wants it. As like i was trying to say, that this was a "finished project" that could start the DCOU, before the tentpole of Superman.
I see Guardians as a teenager and up type of movie...definitely PG-13. But also the realm of what could make the DCOU successful.
Superman, though, i think is gonna need to be more universal, in order to get that billion dollar success started.If that movie flies, i can see Gunn stepping back to his preferred stuff, and opening the doors for other filmmakers to keep the DCOU going.
DC Omni Universe. They are having most of the media (from TV to movies to animation and even games) be connected.
When you say it, it is as @Set Harth understands, OH You.
In contrast to the Film Universe, which ignored the concurrent TV shows
Ah. So if I want to talk about the National Football League, I should ignore the acronym the league chose for itself and go with NAFL (National American Football League) and A) expect everyone else to know what I'm talking about, and B) imply the NFL isn't smart enough to come up with an appropriate acronym on their own? Could become a whole cottage industry. NATO? How close to the North Atlantic is Romania, exactly? USA. Shouldn't it be USNA? (Perhaps in the future...). The UN--I mean, its full name is The United Nations Organization, so shouldn't it be UNO? And so on...
I am from Chicago... so we call it Sears Tower, not Willis Tower, or Aldi's and Jewel's, where we consider the 's invisible on the sign
I am from Chicago... so we call it Sears Tower, not Willis Tower, or Aldi's and Jewel's, where we consider the 's invisible on the sign
So we're just making stuff up now?
And wouldn't it just be "Omniverse"? DCO? Universe is still singular right?
But it's also not an Omniverse, at least not so far, because it is all set in one singular universe, except for the Elseworld projects which aren't connected at all.
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