That certainly sounds like cancelling it. If it's a different concept in a different universe, it's hardly the same series even if the same person's making it.
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That certainly sounds like cancelling it. If it's a different concept in a different universe, it's hardly the same series even if the same person's making it.
Oh OK, I was thinking that was a totally separate thing.
The Supergirl movie, which will be titled Supergirl Woman of Tomorrow, is scheduled for release on June 26, 2026.
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/supergirl-release-date-1235894795/
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/supergirl-release-date-1235894795/
There cannot be enough "hell yeses" for this. If the film captures even half the beauty and brilliance of the graphic novel, it will certainly be among the great superhero films of all time. Cannot wait.
Why are they making this before finding out if people are just as disinterested in these DC movies as they were the last lot?
So they should wait until Superman's release more than a year from now before starting on any additional films in their new DCU?
Personally, I like this trend: an annual big-budget Superfamily movie event.
Personally, I like this trend: an annual big-budget Superfamily movie event.
Gunn has confirmed the reports on Threads:
This, BTW, is his first public acknowledgment that Craig Gillespie will be directing.
6-26-26, that's cute
I'm not particularly interested in Supergirl if its based on the Tom King comic, which is easily the worst Supergirl comic that I've ever tried to read. Still, I trust Gunn so maybe he (or a writer he's hired) have an idea that can somehow make the basic concept and make it tolerable, although it feels like it would be easier to either make an original story or base the movie on an actually good Supergirl story.
When I'm bored, I like to look up comics fans whining about Tom King. It's always good for a laugh. (There's also one angry neckbeard on YouTube who seems to put out a new King outrage video every 12 hours, but I've never given him the benefit of a click.)
King is, in my estimation, the finest writer ever to work in mainstream American comics, and Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow is the single best graphic novel DC has ever published -- with King's Human Target a very close second.
(Though to be fair, I may be shortchanging Frank Miller's classic Dark Knight Returns by saying this. I haven't reread it in years, and I should probably revisit it before definitively crowning King's work as surpassing it.)
King is, in my estimation, the finest writer ever to work in mainstream American comics, and Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow is the single best graphic novel DC has ever published -- with King's Human Target a very close second.
(Though to be fair, I may be shortchanging Frank Miller's classic Dark Knight Returns by saying this. I haven't reread it in years, and I should probably revisit it before definitively crowning King's work as surpassing it.)
DC reached its main superhero-themed graphic novel zenith with Dark Knight Returns (with its incalculable influence on Batman characterization in print and adaptations going forward) and the magnificent Kingdom Come. No other DC superhero graphic novel come close.
Those are both great, of course. Have you read the TK titles I mentioned (or some of his other acclaimed books like Mister Miracle or Strange Adventures)?
Maybe I would've felt differently in the 80s, but as someone who didn't actually read TDKR until a few years ago I absolutely hated it.
Woman of Tomorrow was vastly better. But I also wouldn't call that the greatest comic DC ever published, either, even if it was excellent.
Woman of Tomorrow was vastly better. But I also wouldn't call that the greatest comic DC ever published, either, even if it was excellent.
I bought and read The Dark Knight Returns issue-by-issue on its original release. (I drove an hour to get one issue when the comics shop in my college town sold out of its limited stock.) It was a transformative book at the time, like no other comic that had ever been published before. It's hard to say how I would react reading it for the first time now, especially since, as I said, I haven't reread it in many years. My guess is it would still be impressive on its essential merits, but it would no longer seem revolutionary without benefit of memory and hindsight.
DKR is pro-facism propoganda which was acclaimed because back then people confused being violent with being adult. Hell, Snyder is still confused about that today.
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There's a bit more to it than that. I don't remember the violence even factoring into how much it impressed me at the time.
I'll say -- it was my first exposure to a version of Batman other than Adam West and Olan Soule, so it was quite a radical shift in my perception.
I wouldn't say it's pro-fascist, given that it scathingly satirizes Ronald Reagan's warmongering political rhetoric and paints a negative portrait of Superman as an enforcer for an authoritarian state. If anything, it's more libertarian, given how it ends.
What people have been getting confused about ever since the '80s is that it's meant to be an extreme deconstruction of superhero comics, even a satire of them, rather than an exemplar for how they should always be told (ditto for Watchmen). Amping up Batman and the Joker to such an over-the-top level of violence was originally a startling contrast to the norm, but since then it's become routine for Batman's rogues to be mass murderers. I think the thoughtlessly imitative self-indulgence of a lot of TDKR's imitators (Snyder included) has undermined perceptions of TDKR in retrospect. Whether one cared for its approach or not, it was startlingly original and bold at the time.
SPOCK: Interesting. Your Earth people glorify organized violence for forty centuries, but you imprison those who employ it privately.
Strange Adventures was very, very strong. Although the ultimately dark reimagining of Adam Strange was unexpected (I was a fan of his original stories from Mystery in Space, and other titles), it was fascinating in examining what lengths a hero would go to in order to achieve what he believed was a "balance", which was wholly unethical and tragic (I will not say more for those who have not read it--and they should if Adam Strange is a favorite character).
It's been my observation that many comics readers loathe King precisely because they feel their "favorite characters" (which seem usually to include every single comicbook character ever created, no matter how unimportant or obscure) are often treated ... shall we say, ungently by him.
You, of course, have a history of eagerly embracing darker interpretations of characters, so I'm not surprised you enjoyed Strange Adventures.
Personally, the only comics character that I'm especially protective of is Superman. Fortunately for me, King tends to treat him with enormous care and respect.
I suppose I'm somewhat protective of Lois Lane, too, but I'd be very open to seeing King do a deep dive into that character. I suspect it might prove challenging in some ways, but fascinating for me as a reader.
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