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DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)

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As a cat person this speaks to me.
 
And none of that matters because it has nothing to with what I said. The world moved on from TV Superman faster than it did Green Arrow, Flash and Supergirl.
S&L was never going to receive as much attention from "the world" as a tentpole feature film, but those of us who watched and loved it can still remember and treasure it, and be excited for the new movie too. It's a skill.
 
Mr. Terrific looks fantastic, as does Hawkwoman. Guy Gardener? Yeah, okay. Surprised they went with the bowl cut since he hasn't had that, as far as I know, for a couple of decades now. Wish they all had their own individual costumes, but again, not a deal breaker by any means. Hell, I'm just happy we'll get a movie where a Green Lantern has a solid role to play. Long past time they rehabilitated the character/concept after the Reynolds film.
I wouldn't expect to big of a role for Guy, Nathan Fillion's the lead character on the TV show The Rookie, so he probably didn't have a lot of time to do this.
They definitely have a Terrifics inspired uniform; but, isn't that the Hall of Justice that Superman and Guy walk into--probably after the battle with the Kaiju?
I saw someone call them The Justice League, but I'm not sure if that was from a direct from someone involved with the movie, or just speculation from the person who wrote the article.
 
I agree. I really liked the early DCU films--but I'm always up to see what a new version of Superman is like. I've found something I've liked in all the live action versions I've seen. Even Dean Cain played a good Clark.

Cain and Hoechlin were very good-to-strong as Clark Kent, although I was not fond of the latter's Superman.
 
I wouldn't expect to big of a role for Guy, Nathan Fillion's the lead character on the TV show The Rookie, so he probably didn't have a lot of time to do this.

I saw someone call them The Justice League, but I'm not sure if that was from a direct from someone involved with the movie, or just speculation from the person who wrote the article.
Gunn has said that the Justice League doesn't yet exist during the timeframe of Peacemaker, which takes place prior to Gunn's Suicide Squad. It's possible that it's come into being by the time of Superman.

OTOH, someone has suggested that the other superheroes wear something like a group uniform in this movie because they're currently members of some proto-JL security team funded - and branded- by a wealthy sponsor, Candidates for that sponsor could be Stagg or Lord...or even Luthor. Supe's disinterest in being on the team might be a thing that would irritate Lex a good deal.
 
They definitely have a Terrifics inspired uniform; but, isn't that the Hall of Justice that Superman and Guy walk into--probably after the battle with the Kaiju?

No, it's the Stagg Industries lobby. You can see the company logo on the wall behind Guy.

It also looks nothing like the atrium of Union Terminal, which I've been in many times in my life, both as a visitor and a part-time museum guide. Of course, there's no guarantee that they'd film the "Hall of Justice" scenes inside the Terminal as well as outside; the Arrowverse used a digitally altered shot of the Terminal for the exteriors but filmed the interiors in a hangar near Vancouver.
 
Why would Superman even flinch when being hit in the head with a tin can? In another movie/continuity this guy took a bullet to the eyeball without flinching.
 
I enjoyed episode four of Creature Commandos, but wasn't bowled over by it as I have been by a couple of episodes.

Weasel's backstory was almost too by-the-numbers. I was braced for something kind of startling (and sick, yeah) twist out of left field, but Gunn played it straight down the middle with angry townsfolk (even fire!) and Weasel as a misjudged innocent.

This was a weak pivot in the middle of the story. Okay, everybody packs up and goes home. Story Twist Is Revealed in a talky expository sequence. Flagg is swapped out as leader almost casually and for a predictable reason (he really comes across as unbearably naive, here). And then - then everyone climbs into their planes to go back to the place where the story has been unfolding since the beginning of the show.

Which doesn't mean I didn't love the episode anyway. I'm generally loathe to analyze things that I really enjoy, so I feel like I'm having a strange off moment, along with the show. Or not. ;)
 
Gunn has said that the Justice League doesn't yet exist during the timeframe of Peacemaker, which takes place prior to Gunn's Suicide Squad. It's possible that it's come into being by the time of Superman.

OTOH, someone has suggested that the other superheroes wear something like a group uniform in this movie because they're currently members of some proto-JL security team funded - and branded- by a wealthy sponsor, Candidates for that sponsor could be Stagg or Lord...or even Luthor. Supe's disinterest in being on the team might be a thing that would irritate Lex a good deal.
Oh, OK.
I've been wandering elsewhere and have seen people complaining about Krypto being in the film, which is scientific proof that it is possible to survive without a soul.
I'll just never understand some people.
 
And like that, TV Superman's four seasons were instantly forgotten.

That depends on the audience member's expectations of what makes a good adaptation; I recall many a Hulk fan showing up to see the Ang Lee film, but did not forget--or stop considering the Bixby TV series great, despite the fact there were 21 years between the end of the series and Lee's movie.


Mr. Terrific looks fantastic, as does Hawkwoman


Yes. Hawkwoman looks pretty good. It seems both Hawkman (from Black Adam) and girl are among the easiest characters to successfully modify and adapt for film.

Guy Gardener? Yeah, okay. Surprised they went with the bowl cut since he hasn't had that, as far as I know, for a couple of decades now.

Yeah, the bowl cut is not at all appealing. He looks like a modern day Moe Howard...

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Hell, I'm just happy we'll get a movie where a Green Lantern has a solid role to play. Long past time they rehabilitated the character/concept after the Reynolds film.

Just about anything should be better than that idiotic, everything-is-goofy Reynolds GL film.

Only thing I didn't care for was the John Williams theme. I loved it back in the day, even had the record of the soundtrack in the early 80's. I would've rather that they come up with their own theme like the various Batman and Spider-Man films have. A new theme for a new generation instead of trying to make fetch happen for the subsequent generations who don't care about Superman 78.

Agreed. This is not a sequel (e.g. Superman Returns) or continuation of the same universe. Its a new movie universe (with a couple of exceptions tied to another current production) and should create its own identity in its score, much like Elfman did with Batman, which bore no similarities or influence from Neal Hefti or Nelson Riddle's very famous themes and episode scores from the 1966 Batman TV series.

I hope in this era of superhero fatigue that DC can rejuvinate the genre while bringing a unique voice to differientiate itself from Marvel. I think taking inspiration from Grant Morrison's ability to bring some of the crazy Silver Age stuff into the modern age and keeping it both fresh and crazy is a plus.

I believe a live action adaptation of Cooke's DC: The New Frontier would have captured that Silver Age feel, where Cooke was able to marry even the strangest Silver Age concepts to the real world culture and events so naturally.
 
Gunn has said that the Justice League doesn't yet exist during the timeframe of Peacemaker, which takes place prior to Gunn's Suicide Squad. It's possible that it's come into being by the time of Superman.
The appearance of the Justice League in Peacemaker S1 was of little consequence and can easily be rewritten out. However, changing the order of events so that Peacemaker S1 takes place prior to The Suicide Squad (2021) would involve noticeably more work, as Christopher spends time at various moments coping with the events of the film.
 
Why would Superman even flinch when being hit in the head with a tin can? In another movie/continuity this guy took a bullet to the eyeball without flinching.
It's his feelings that are wounded - somewhat by the crowd's rejection (unfamiliar to him), probably more so by frustration and disappointment in himself for letting them down. That comes across pretty clearly in his expression and posture, without even knowing the context. Being physically struck is only the proximate cause.
 
The appearance of the Justice League in Peacemaker S1 was of little consequence and can easily be rewritten out. However, changing the order of events so that Peacemaker S1 takes place prior to The Suicide Squad (2021) would involve noticeably more work, as Christopher spends time at various moments coping with the events of the film.
Missed that - I was going by things I've seen the principals say online over the last year or two. Thanks.

What Gunn did say about the Peacemaker season-ending scene was:

Peacemaker‘s connection to the new canon “is pretty straightforward, with the exception of the appearance by a certain group at the end” of the Season 1 finale, Gunn said, explaining: “They don’t exist yet. But the rule is: If we mention [something from the past] in one of the new DCU shows [and movies], then it happened. That’s the way we’re dealing with it.”

If Peacemaker is possibly contemporary to the Superman film rather than set a few years in the past, this makes it less likely that the Superfriends who appear in it are the JL per se.
 
I enjoyed episode four of Creature Commandos, but wasn't bowled over by it as I have been by a couple of episodes.

Weasel's backstory was almost too by-the-numbers. I was braced for something kind of startling (and sick, yeah) twist out of left field, but Gunn played it straight down the middle with angry townsfolk (even fire!) and Weasel as a misjudged innocent.

This was a weak pivot in the middle of the story. Okay, everybody packs up and goes home. Story Twist Is Revealed in a talky expository sequence. Flagg is swapped out as leader almost casually and for a predictable reason (he really comes across as unbearably naive, here). And then - then everyone climbs into their planes to go back to the place where the story has been unfolding since the beginning of the show.

Which doesn't mean I didn't love the episode anyway. I'm generally loathe to analyze things that I really enjoy, so I feel like I'm having a strange off moment, along with the show. Or not. ;)
Not sure I'm good with Them making the Frankenstein dude a complete fukin' idiot (though David Harbour plays the character very well), but so far the episodes have been entertaining and the story moves along quickly.
 
Eric F. has spent centuries in the grip of romantic obsession, which is to say that he's in love with the idea of love and therefore thinks he loves this person. So he knows nothing about love, only how to cycle through self-generated states of euphoria, rage and despair.*

Of course he's behaving like an idiot.

*I, uh, have never personally experienced this. I've heard rumors.
 
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