You might be right that Bruce may be upper forties by now. I was guessing a little younger assuming that he took Dick on as a ward while he was in his mid-twenties--but he could have been slightly older.
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You might be right that Bruce may be upper forties by now. I was guessing a little younger assuming that he took Dick on as a ward while he was in his mid-twenties--but he could have been slightly older.
Depends on the comic. Affleck is a good match for Miller Dark Knight or even the Robinson/Sprang version, But not much the Adams or Aparo version
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I don't see where the 5 Robins mean Bruce has the be in his 40s, if he started out as Batman in his very early 20s, and each one only lasted a year or two, I could easily see him being in his 30s. Personally, I think keeping all 5 Robins through all of the reboots is a bit of a mistake, because that does seem like a lot. If it were me, I'd just narrow it down to just Dick, Tim, and Damien since they seem to be the most popular, and the characters people most associate with the character. The only problem I could see with that is the removal of the only female Robin in the main DCU.
Yeah, but that's exactly the problem -- that you have to compress the Robins' careers into such an absurdly short time frame. Especially Dick, who started out as a preteen, literally grew up as Robin, struck out on his own as a Titan, and then became Nightwing as an adult and spent years building an independent reputation. It serves his character poorly to cut his Robin career down to just a couple of years.
I once worked out a chronology for the DC Animated Universe, assuming it took place roughly in real time. I had Bruce become Batman at age 22 (in 1984), taking in the 9-year-old Dick Grayson as his ward later that same year. Most of B:TAS is in Bruce's early 30s, and he's 34 when Dick graduates college at 21 and gives up the Robin identity. Batman is 36 when he begins training Tim Drake (there's no Jason Todd in B:TAS, though its Tim is basically Jason with his name changed, just as its Dick was an amalgam of Dick and Tim). He's 38-39 when he co-founds the Justice League, and he's 41 when the flashbacks in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker take place (and Tim would have to be 17 despite being depicted as early teens). Bruce is 43 at the end of Justice League Unlimited, and 59 when he retires in the prologue to Batman Beyond, though I've always found that highly implausible, though I suppose the Watchtower's advanced medical technology would've helped. He's 79-81 in Batman Beyond.
So the DCAU Batman only had two Robins in the course of 18-19 years, plus one Batgirl, of course. It's pretty hard to imagine cramming four or five Robins' backstories into just five years as The New 52 tried to do.
Let's see. Let's pretend Bruce takes on the Batman identity at 26 because he graduated from university and gained a lot of scientific and engineering knowledge, as well as trained following his formal studies. At 28, he starts working with Dick. Let's put Dick's starting age at 12. If Dick is now 27 in the comics then Bruce would be 43.
Jason would have come along when Dick was 19 and Bruce 35. Jason only lasted a short time as Robin, leaving plenty of room for Tim, Stephanie, and Damien to have worked with Bruce. With 3 to 5 years real time averaging 1 year in the comic world then that should cover all the stories that are still considered part of continuity.
Jason would have come along when Dick was 19 and Bruce 35. Jason only lasted a short time as Robin, leaving plenty of room for Tim, Stephanie, and Damien to have worked with Bruce. With 3 to 5 years real time averaging 1 year in the comic world then that should cover all the stories that are still considered part of continuity.
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Sure, but I just have trouble with the idea of him still being in top fighting form at 43. At least, he'd be more dependent on body armor and tech than he used to be.
I agree. It's certainly comic book logic.
In the current comic book continuity, he can't be that much younger. Superman must be in his mid-thirties and probably Wonder Woman as well.
Wonder Woman is in her mid 3000s. ( well according to some versions
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Wonder Woman is in her mid 3000s. ( well according to some versions
In any version, neither she nor Superman have to worry about aging as Batman does.
Depends. There are some continuities where Superman is immortal, and others where he ages only moderately more slowly than a human.
Pretty much the same with me. I'm a big fan of Aparo, one of the longest running Batman artists. He just had a clean and classic style.
Adams was before my time, but I have a few things of his, primarily his GL/GA run in paperback, which he did with O'Neil.
O'Neil is, of course, one of the greatest. One thing that I thought was cool was seeing how he wrote in the Bronze age in the GL/GA and some of his Batman stories, where things were very expositional in the dialogue boxes, and how he wrote in the 80s and 90s, which was more graphic and had less words. He was writing, I think, to an older and more sophisticated audience and he had no problem doing that at all. O'Neil directly inspired Frank Miller.
As far as the trifecta that was writing in the early 90s of Moench, Dixon, and Grant, Moench had a great overall Batman style, Dixon was very direct on street-level stories, and Grant's, imo, featured a very human Batman, where we got into his thinking. I think Grant and Breyfogle was my favorite Batman team, or one of my favorites. I think they're both very underrated today.
I made sure to get the Batman B&W Aparo and Breyfogle statues.
This all seems reasonable.
You described the problem with Batman and GL wrt the New 52 perfectly. Too many characters and events had to be crammed into too short a time. It really was absurd. Miller and Johns pretty much ignored the whole reboot to continue their stories.
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