Oh dear Lord. I'm not doing this right now ok? I said what I said, I got better things to do than argue on the internet.
Let's just end this and say you are 100% correct and I'm an idiot so we don't drag this into a 5 page debat about nonsense.
DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)
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Oh dear Lord. I'm not doing this right now ok? I said what I said, I got better things to do than argue on the internet.
Let's just end this and say you are 100% correct and I'm an idiot so we don't drag this into a 5 page debat about nonsense.
Suicide Squad was a wonderful movie.
Gunn's never let me down.
If they ever use Bizarro they should get someone like Hoechlin or Cavill to play him.
Gunn's never let me down.
If they ever use Bizarro they should get someone like Hoechlin or Cavill to play him.
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That's because top execs have no creativity and think that copying the superficial form of a past success will guarantee success, rather than making something actually good and creative in its own right -- which is why every successful, fresh movie is followed by dozens of creatively bankrupt imitations that flop. You'd think eventually they'd learn that kneejerk imitation is not a successful strategy, but they never do.
Why do you think nearly everybody out there copies the iPhone.
Everybody loves riding on somebody elses successful coat-tails.
I know. I've known that for decades, which is why I'm complaining about it. Because it's stupid and it doesn't work, but people just keep doing it, because studio executives are businesspeople and don't get hired for artistic insight or creativity.
If it didn't work (financially), people wouldn't do it.
Samsung & the other phone makers seem to sell enough units that it works to some degree.
Remember all of the Power Rangers clones in the US that sprang up after Power Rangers Exploded in popularity?
You’re mistaking creativity for something that has reached a reasonable form factor for everyday use.
They are not the same.
Yes. Most of them were crap, and none of them lasted more than two seasons, in contrast to Power Rangers, which lasted for 30 seasons. That is my point. Yes, obviously, any success will spawn multiple copies. I don't need that explained to me, because I'm the one who's already saying it. The part you're overlooking is that the copies are rarely as good or successful as the original.
And comparing it to phones makes no sense, because phones are consumer products, not artistic creations. If something works as a consumer product, it makes sense for similar products to work the same way. But that's not how creativity works. It's not about what you do, it's about how well you do it. The reason there are so many crappy copies of successful films and shows is that Hollywood executives never understand that, because they make the mistake of assuming that what applies to consumer products applies to fiction and art as well.
Do you mean The Suicide Squad? Because Suicide Squad wasn't Gunn.
Which is the very reason that extraordinary sums of money can be made available to let creative people create at the extravagant levels they do.
Then how do you convince the ones who hold the "Purse Strings" to take risks?
Because at the end of the day, you answer to those who hold the financials.
If you fail, you're in big trouble and you could get black-balled in the industry.
Your personal "Artists Visions" sounds nice, but when it comes to money, it isn't your money to play with.
It's theres.
Real world concerns vs. artistic vision will always be in the mix. Just the price of large-scale entertainment.
Most of it's been in the last 3.5 years, unless you're including Spiderverse 1.
I’m including things like the Star Trek universe, which has been dryhumping its own corpse since 2017, at least.
I didn't get the significance of this, until I saw it pointed out elsewhere:
So, they made early ticket purchases available for Prime members yesterday, for a limited number of shows two days before the movie opens - and sold more tickets than for the first full day's general-release premiere of movies like Fantastic Four.
So, they made early ticket purchases available for Prime members yesterday, for a limited number of shows two days before the movie opens - and sold more tickets than for the first full day's general-release premiere of movies like Fantastic Four.
All they have to do is recognize that the whole "bring back old actors and pretend it's a multiverse" gimmick has become stale from overuse. Like any gimmick, it works best when used sparingly. As I said, it's possible that the financial and critical failure of The Flash has already soured DC's execs on the idea.
We'll obviously see what happens with DC since they're still lagging behind Marvel over-all in the Movie Theater in terms of Financial Performance.
This isn't DC vs. Marvel, this is DC vs. its own budget vs. box office projections.
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