Spoilers Dark PhoeniX - Review and Discussion Thread
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A lot of people heard the reviews and hadn't seen it...surely not willing to pay money to see it. So i am not surprised nor hating him on it.Resurrected a 3 year old thread to say you watched 10 minutes of a movie and didn't like it?
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My question, since we are bringing this back....who was in charge of the XMen franchise in the ending years? What happened and who was in charge (such as Walter Hamada for the DC FU and Kevin Feige for the MCU)
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
I believe it was pretty much Simon Kinberg and Lauren Shuler Donner running the ship. Bryan Singer was gone by Dark Phoenix.
Dark phoenix is absolute garbage. And I don't say that lightly as I can usually waive away criticisms of the trashiest blockbusters. This was just SO poor I just can't believe it's a sequel to the excellent first two films and (I don't care what anyone says) OK third one.
I supoooose the shuttle bit at the beginning was ok but there wasn't a single scene after this that was even passable. I simply can't believe this had two hundred million dollars thrown at it because it looks like a third of that at best.
I'd give it maybe 3/10 at best.
I supoooose the shuttle bit at the beginning was ok but there wasn't a single scene after this that was even passable. I simply can't believe this had two hundred million dollars thrown at it because it looks like a third of that at best.
I'd give it maybe 3/10 at best.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that was a problem.Resurrected a 3 year old thread to say you watched 10 minutes of a movie and didn't like it?
Cool story bro
Halston Sage was Dazzler?
That girl was born cursed.
That girl was born cursed.
Lauren was off it by the end, she disavowed being connected with the last couple.
Also, the movie keeps trying to paint Xavier as a bad guy for wanting the X-Men to go out and do stuff to show that Mutants are helpful members of society. Yet for some reason characters like Mystique are angry over this, and think hiding in the Mansion doing NOTHING is somehow the better option.
Then Jean gets mad at him for lying to get about her dad being alive, when truth is her dad didn't want to see her and Xavier's lie was to spare her unnecessary pain. IE, the movie tries to portray it as some manipulation when it's easily seen as a teacher not wanting his student to suffer unnecessarily.
Then Jean gets mad at him for lying to get about her dad being alive, when truth is her dad didn't want to see her and Xavier's lie was to spare her unnecessary pain. IE, the movie tries to portray it as some manipulation when it's easily seen as a teacher not wanting his student to suffer unnecessarily.
I just remember the part where Jean says "maybe we should be called THE X-WOMEN" but then dies five minutes later and wondering why they even brought that up.
Was that Jean or Raven?
Yeah it was Raven; I can definitely remember Jennifer Lawrence saying it now. It was weird.
Again, it's supposed to be Raven angry at Charles for the horrible crime of...having the X-Men actually do stuff to show they're not dangerous.
Really, this attitude shows why mutant hatred is a thing in the movies and comics. It's because the X-Men really suck at their mission.
Really, this attitude shows why mutant hatred is a thing in the movies and comics. It's because the X-Men really suck at their mission.
The X-Men are frequently their own worst enemies, and sometimes in the stupidest says.
A few years ago in the comics, during the AvX event, some of the X-Men got to share the Phoenix force and they all basically took over the world in an instant. Not try to just defeat bad guys and have peace, we're talking Dr. Doom levels of control. Even the mutants not possessed by the Phoenix helped subjugate the world, including doing things like sticking the Avengers in what was basically Hell and murdering a bunch of Wakandans in a attack/flood. Sure, a few X-Men (specifically Wolverine, Professor X and Rogue) actively tried to stop that stuff, but 99% of the X-Men went along with just trying to take over the world without being mind controlled or even slightly questioning the phoenix possesed X-Men's actions (Storm was Queen of Wakanda but I'm pretty sure she helped Namor attack it). Xavier even got murdered by Cyclops for trying to peacefully convince the Phoenix powered X-Men to stop.
The comic also really wants you to know that, in the beginning of all that, the Phoenix was barely influencing the 5 possessed mutants (Cyclops, Emma Frost, namor, Magik and Colossus). They started becoming more obviously crazy when their numbers started shrinking, but in the beginning all the stuff they do is basically supposed to be them mostly in control. The comics basically just never mentioned these events afterwards because its hard to come back from the fact that the X-men literally did what the anti-mutant bad guys always said they would do, take over the world if they had the power to do so, and most of them weren't even being influenced or mind controlled to do it.
Sure, in real life this is all the result of terrible writing, but its the example that comes to my mind first when thinking about the X-Men sabotaging what used to be their goal of general mutant/human peace. Then Hickman took over and they became functionally immortal nutjobs living on an island but thats a whole other issue.
It followed her saying "the women are always saving the men around here".
Thinking about how the First Class movies went down hill by overinflating JLaw's Mystique in the lore of the X-Universe; still makes me mad. I get they wanted to exploit "Academy Award Winning Actress" Jennifer Lawrence, but mate. She was bored of these movies when she did DOFP. That film still works, because Mystique is the trigger of the "final solution" for the Mutant Problem in the comics and animated series. But she had one the Oscar for Silver Linings Playbook and American Hustle at the time. She was checked out.
In Apocalypse, she phones it in harder. All while the writers try to emulate her Katniss persona for X-Leader Mystique. She hated being naked in the skin suit, but the writers never could put her in Mystique's iconic white gown. I wonder why.
After Apocalypse, JLaw said she would never do another one. But then the writer and now director Kinberg brought her back. Just to kill her off. Reportedly, JLaw needed the pay day. After Hunger Games wrapped up and thudded. Passengers went nowhere. And the film projects Mother! and Joy didn't really set the world on fire.
In Apocalypse, she phones it in harder. All while the writers try to emulate her Katniss persona for X-Leader Mystique. She hated being naked in the skin suit, but the writers never could put her in Mystique's iconic white gown. I wonder why.
After Apocalypse, JLaw said she would never do another one. But then the writer and now director Kinberg brought her back. Just to kill her off. Reportedly, JLaw needed the pay day. After Hunger Games wrapped up and thudded. Passengers went nowhere. And the film projects Mother! and Joy didn't really set the world on fire.
The funny thing is, when fans asked why they didn't bother trying to expand more on the other X-Men characters like Kitty Pryde or Cyclops and kept going back to Wolverine even in plots he didn't matter in (DOFP) the answer came down to "Look, if it wasn't for characters like Wolverine the X-Men would've stayed canceled after the 60s. Those older classic characters just aren't worth the effort. We're gonna keep inserting Wolverine cause he's more interesting."
Meanwhile the MCU takes someone who by all rights was as "Boring" as Cyclops like Captain America and makes him now be seen as a proper Icon on par with Superman and Batman.
Meanwhile the MCU takes someone who by all rights was as "Boring" as Cyclops like Captain America and makes him now be seen as a proper Icon on par with Superman and Batman.
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