Daedalus specs

[Ronald Held]

Reading too many 23d century SCE stories.
Not much canonical about this class of vessel. Are there any specs or deck plans for any 22d century ships of that class?

 

[STR]

Technically, the ball-on-a-stick ship's only appearance in any series was as a desk model. The class was named, but never depicted.

 

[Wingsley]

There is an interesting story posted in the Daedalus article on Memory Alpha.

 

[kkozoriz1]

There's some fan blueprints about 1/4 of the way down this page:
//http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/gilso.php

 

[Masao]

The length of 100 m or so given by most sources is based on a fleet chart in the Star Trek Encyclopedia. In said chart, Daedalus is very small. If you were to calculate the length on the basis of the number of decks, you might get a different figure.

 

[Ronald Held]

Will read the Memory Alpha article.

 

[SWHouston]

You can also take a look at...
http://www.st-intelligence.com/ship_database/dom/dae.php
&
http://www.neutralzone.de/database/Federation/StarFleet/Daedalus01.htm

 

[publiusr]

I like that second drawing better as the initial design, with Gilsons and the model being a refit for SCE.

 

[Ronald Held]

Maybe it had 10 decks and a crew of ~200+?

 

[Bill Morris]

Here's my guess about the decks, assuming the EAS figure of 140 m overall length and deck heights of 3.6 m:

With the same deck layout, overall length of 120 m would make those deck heights 3 m, and 100 m would make them 2.57 m.

 

[Timo]

OTOH, an even deck spacing might be fallacy, considering that the portholes (?) aren't spaced evenly, either.

Basically, the sphere has five or six rows of portholes, plus a few stragglers. Might be there are five or six habitable, roughly 3 m high decks inside, plus machinery in between them, and then some connecting staircases that have individual portholes between decks. On each deck, the portholes are nicely centered or positioned at eye level...

As long as we're arbitrarily picking a size for the ship, we could play with the original size of the components (space shuttle SRBs for engine nacelles, ET for secondary hull) and decide the ship is 53 meters long? The connecting neck would still be of walking height then, while the large rectangles taped to the outer hull would be practical pod bay hatches for HAL to open and close. And a typical porthole would be about 30 cm x 60 cm, not all that different from what they had on NX-01. The sphere might have four decks (each with its own well-defined row of portholes, plus some additional holes at the floor level of Deck 2 below the pennants (possibly floodlights for making the pennants visible), plus an observation dome atop Deck 1.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Bill Morris]

It seems to be very common that these models have what look like windows some of which are at head height as the decks would have to be placed according to everything else and some just above the floor, as indicated for this ship in the upper figure. And, considering a cross-section of the neck, it makes sense to have one flat floor for an arched corridor with space below for conduits, etc. This deck spacing reflects that. So two rows of windows close together on a model don't mean two decks, especially if you consider reasonable deck heights. I would assume the EAS figure of 140 m overall length was derived taking all that into account.

 

[Bill Morris]

Just turning that mess into a partially done schematic with a dropdown NX shuttlepod and similar engine but supposedly good for warp 7, . . .

 

[Albertese]

^^^ Why does it get TNG style Torpedo Launchers and tankage? And weren't hose launchers on the Galaxy class like , what, three decks high?!?!

--Alex

 

[Bill Morris]

The deuterium tankage is shown in a diifferent style on the MSD for the Galaxy class and seems larger than the entire engineering hull of the Daedalus class. And yes, the torpedo launchers are over two decks high, although shown in a different style. I'm sure the ones on the Daedalus class use smaller, less powerful torpedoes. The quantum torpedo launchers on the Defiant MSD are shown fitting on a single deck, and the microtorpedo launchers on the Danube class and Delta Flyer are hardly more than a foot high.

Anyway, that's certainly not done, and I'm sure it will need some changes.

 

[Timo]

I think those are symbols more than accurate side views... The same goes for the computer core, or the impulse engines.

The series of dark side-by-side squares at the stern, where the aft launcher is positioned in the above view, is an intriguing feature... Sliding panels for hiding something like this launcher, or then a shuttlebay? Large windows? Immobile instrumentation covers? The outside surfaces of cubic lifeboats?

The stern views in the newer Chronology suggest that this area does not glow. Really, the beautiful shot on p.36 makes the area look very much like a shuttlebay...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Bill Morris]

Well, I'm not happy with the way it looks so far. I just quickly dumped a lot of stuff in there, some of which should probably come out. But if it does take a drop-launch shuttlepod, the shape of the engineering hull is rather restrictive, as it is with what can can be placed on the lowest deck.

I looked at meshes, etc. on the Web and saw no hint of impulse engines. The Gilso/Jackill schematic shows something that could be small impulse engines or maybe RCS thrusters located as I have them, just labeled "Engineering Upper Deck" and "Engineering Lower Deck," but at least it agrees with my take on height and number of decks. And I don't have the Chronology. More references might be helpful.

The side-by-side squares were supposed to be workstations. That's all. Maybe I can come up with someting better to put in there.

 

[Ronald Held]

I think it is a good start, looking forward to the next iteration.

 

[Sisko_is_my_captain]

That's got to be the most hideous ship ever designed, I'm sorry. Did nobody notice that the sphere is directly in front of the deflector dish? Hope they never tried any BOBW-style stunts with it.

You want a classy 22nd century ship? Try the NX-01.5.

http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/06/27/nx-01-5-quick-sketch/

http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/2011sotl_drexler_r021.jpg

 

[CuttingEdge100]

There was this one design cooked up by Aethernut of the Daedalus, a design proposed by a guy named Winter for an Apex-Class. I also remember a 4-nacelled Daedalus like design. The secondary hull was located right behind the primary hull, not behind and on the lower side, right on the centerline; and the nav-deflector was right in the front of the primary hull, and it had four nacelles.

All would look better than the actual Daedalus. Regardless, these designs are probably copyrighted so you'd want to ask the artists permission before you go around using them