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CW's The 100

I agree this episode wasn't that great. It does give us a set up for next week's, which looks a lot more interesting.
Next week's episode will be have Dichen Lachman in it. If you watch the trailer, you can see her briefly as one of the Grounders coming for the negotiations. I'm a fan of her's from Dollhouse, so this makes me happy.
 
They weren't that attractive, but in space no one can get fat because no one is allowed to over eat because there is not enough food.

Although it's fortunate that the war started in the future, Becuase antigravity had been invented on the station, and no one was crushed by Earth's gravity the instant they tried to stand up after landing.
Parts of the space station are spinning. I would expect that some areas are zero-g, and the people live in the "Earth-normal" sections.

It's good to see that the kids are eventually looking rather dirty and grubby, although I have to wonder how they so quickly learned to expertly skin the animals to get their fur blankets.
 
I thought this EP was going to be good, but no. I enjoyed the finale of Star-Crossed better. Jasper is a complete idiot and should have died long ago. Ugh.
 
So wait, at the end when we see something crash. Was that the dropship Diana and co were on crashing and killing them all, or was it just another part of the Ark crashing to Earth?
 
So wait, at the end when we see something crash. Was that the dropship Diana and co were on crashing and killing them all, or was it just another part of the Ark crashing to Earth?

Oh, good thought. Maybe that'll turn out to be what it was.

I lost a lot of respect for Clarke here, giving into fear and aggression the way she did. She did recover somewhat when she legitimately tried to make peace with Dichen Lachman (yay, Dichen Lachman!), but things never would've gone to hell the way they did if she hadn't brought an armed band along with her.

I'm not enjoying the new arc with Kate Vernon as the evil usurper. It's too extreme and heavy-handed. I was enjoying the more complex political interplay aboard the Ark, the ambiguity of the characters and their choices, but now there's this blatant one-note villain to fight against, making everyone else look unambiguously heroic. I mean, sure, she claims she's a populist looking out for the workers, but that's clearly just a front and she's in it for her own personal power.
 
It doesn't make sense.

Only 700 can go. 1300 are going to be left behind.

So... I'm going to take 12 of my friends and kill the remaining 1988 people in my home.

She's been planning this for months.

WTF?

BSG The Plan had a more cohesive plan.

By the way.

A population of 2000 is way too small for everyone not to know everyone else.

How many thousand people did you go to school with?
 
Yeah, the stuff with Kate Vernon wasn't that great.
I can kind of see Clarke wanting to have back up given everything that happened, but it did kind of annoy me that they were so pissed and freaking out that The Grounders did the exact same thing they did. So it's OK for them to bring guns to the meeting, but the Grounders bring bow and arrows and spears and they're mad they didn't follow the agreement. It just seems kind of hypocritical to me. I was glad that Finn did at least point out that it was Jasper who fired the first shot.
 
When are the Grounders going to notice that the great enemy is a pack of children?

If you're 18 and a criminal they turn you into a floater.

**Chuckle**

Bellamy was walking and talking when Octavia was Born... She's 12 or 13... Oh, Bellamy wasn't one of the 100, he snuck in. Bellamy is old. He must have 6 years on the oldest other person in his camp which means that Octavia could be 17. But he should be smarter, or at least smarter than a pack of children, but then considering his crimes, maybe he's mentally challenged?

(Inbreeding is probably a problem.)

"Disregard"

The point is that unless there's something horrible happening to the water table killing the grounders before they turn 30, which is pretty fricking likely, the grounders should be adults wanting to fight adults and be pretty let down by all the children sqaring off against them.
 
A population of 2000 is way too small for everyone not to know everyone else.

How many thousand people did you go to school with?
My high school had a population of 1000-1200 kids. I certainly didn't know all of them - not even half, nor did I know all the teachers. And it looks like the space station became a "caste" type of society, where the "workers" wouldn't be socializing with the council or the "professional" class of people. There would tend to be people who wouldn't know each other.

When are the Grounders going to notice that the great enemy is a pack of children?

If you're 18 and a criminal they turn you into a floater.

**Chuckle**

Bellamy was walking and talking when Octavia was Born... She's 12 or 13... Oh, Bellamy wasn't one of the 100, he snuck in. Bellamy is old. He must have 6 years on the oldest other person in his camp which means that Octavia could be 17. But he should be smarter, or at least smarter than a pack of children, but then considering his crimes, maybe he's mentally challenged?

(Inbreeding is probably a problem.)

"Disregard"

The point is that unless there's something horrible happening to the water table killing the grounders before they turn 30, which is pretty fricking likely, the grounders should be adults wanting to fight adults and be pretty let down by all the children sqaring off against them.
Unless the grounders have access to modern medicine, uncontaminated food and water, and reading and reference books, they're going to be losing people to disease and radiation-induced ailments. They're probably not that surprised to see younger people, since it's unlikely they have many older people themselves.
 
A population of 2000 is way too small for everyone not to know everyone else.

How many thousand people did you go to school with?
My high school had a population of 1000-1200 kids. I certainly didn't know all of them - not even half, nor did I know all the teachers. And it looks like the space station became a "caste" type of society, where the "workers" wouldn't be socializing with the council or the "professional" class of people. There would tend to be people who wouldn't know each other.

I didn't know anyone. :(
 
Peter Ustinov at the end of Logan's Run, I agree.

(Dichen may look like a child, pass for a teenager maybe, but the actress is 32.)

I went to school with about a thousand people for 5 years.

New people showing up, old people leaving.

But faces became familiar even if names didn't.
 
The only thing I became familiar with was Coke & Skittles. I went to prom with someone from another school and went to another prom the following year after graduation with a stranger as a favor, at my school.
 
Shakka! When the walls came down!

We (literally we, you and I!) were talking about about how the poisonous ground might be considerably shortening lifspans.

The grounders that are alive today, may not have seen anyone over 50, god forbid a 70 year old.

Peter played the crazy 65 year old man from outside the self sustaining city were every is murdered on their 30th birthday. At the end of the movie, when Logan came back, He brought the old man (Peter) with him, and the inhabitants of the city freaked out (in a good way) and they all took turns touching his wrinkles as the credits rolled down the movie screen.

Have you not seen Logan's Run recently?

Actually... Have we met anyone really old on the Ark? Do they float the 60 plus?
 
I'd imagine that Kane's mom must be in her sixties or seventies. Assuming Kane has an age roughly the same as the actor who plays him (Cusick is 47) then she must be the eldest recurring character we've got.
 
Shakka! When the walls came down!

We (literally we, you and I!) were talking about about how the poisonous ground might be considerably shortening lifspans.

The grounders that are alive today, may not have seen anyone over 50, god forbid a 70 year old.

Peter played the crazy 65 year old man from outside the self sustaining city were every is murdered on their 30th birthday. At the end of the movie, when Logan came back, He brought the old man (Peter) with him, and the inhabitants of the city freaked out (in a good way) and they all took turns touching his wrinkles as the credits rolled down the movie screen.

Have you not seen Logan's Run recently?

Actually... Have we met anyone really old on the Ark? Do they float the 60 plus?
I have seen Logan's Run so many times, there are some scenes I can quote word for word. I've also read the original novel even more times.

Yes, I understand your point that the grounders may never have seen an elderly person, but the reasons wouldn't be the same. There's a difference between dying of old age, disease, or other reasons for which we would normally have doctors and hospitals and medicines, and the dystopian world of Logan's Run, where everyone who reaches 30 (21 in the book) gets euthanized - or if they choose to run - shot.

I'd imagine that Kane's mom must be in her sixties or seventies. Assuming Kane has an age roughly the same as the actor who plays him (Cusick is 47) then she must be the eldest recurring character we've got.
Bingo! Her function seemed to be mostly a religious leader of some kind, and a teacher. I should think that as long as a person could perform some useful function and hadn't committed any crime, they would be allowed to live.
 
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