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CW's The 100

and some very dumb plot decisions (they're going down to an irradiated planet and nobody bothered to pack a Geiger counter to see if they'll die now or in a few weeks?).

The ill-conceived, ill-prepared nature of the expedition makes sense given that the real purpose of sending down the Hundred was not to do a meaningful survey of Earth -- it was just to reduce the Ark's population and prolong their air supply, while also ridding themselves of their most expendable members, the criminals. The whole survey thing was mainly just a smokescreen to hide the true agenda from the Ark's populace. If, by some miracle, the Hundred did survive and report back that the surface was habitable again, that would be a nice bonus, but it wasn't the primary goal.


I caught up until the most recent episode and i must say the good outweighs the flaws.. for a CW show it is very final in some of the events that happen (and they happen unexpectedly) and the writing/tension improves from episode to episode.

This show really does not hesitate to go as dark as possible. Two weeks ago they had a little kid murder one of the ostensible main characters. Last week they had the same little kid throw herself off a cliff. But this week was the darkest one yet -- but in a way, the most optimistic and moving one yet at the same time.

The danger that the Ark authorities would cull 300 citizens to reduce air usage has been around since the pilot, but I expected that Abby and Raven's plan would result in a last-minute reprieve, or that Abby revealing the truth to the populace would lead to some other option being explored. But instead we got people volunteering en masse to sacrifice their lives -- and the 100's desperate scramble to signal the Ark and save those lives came just barely too late. And so that final shot when Abby saw the signal flares... it was both the best and the worst possible news she could've gotten.

It's odd -- I usually don't relish shows that go too dark too consistently, but I find it surprisingly bold and effective here, perhaps because it's not something I would've expected from a CW show based on a young-adult novel. I guess the constant tragedy could wear out its welcome if they don't mix it up some, but they did mix it up here by making the story as uplifting as it was tragic. When these people were faced with the worst possible crisis, they didn't degenerate into venality and cruelty (like they would have on Moore's Battlestar Galactica), but came together like they never had before in pursuit of a greater good (which is actually closer to reality). Even Kane seemed to set aside his agenda and genuinely persuade Chancellor Jaha not to sacrifice himself -- even though I could've sworn he was the one who had Bellamy try to kill Jaha in the first place. It sucks that it was all unnecessary, but that doesn't really diminish the nobility of the characters' choices and actions here.

The main thing that bugs me is Abby's get-out-of-execution-free card. She's now committed at least two crimes, both of which are capital offenses since all crimes committed by adults are capital on the Ark, and yet she's been given a free pass. Okay, the excuse is that they need her doctorin' skills, but it still feels like a contrivance to keep the series lead around.

I also find the continued lack of Kelly Hu disappointing. They got my hopes up by giving her a big role in the pilot, and then they pulled a bait and switch.
 
Surely you can argue jurisdiction?

Arc Crime is not applicable on Earth?

Otherwise what's to stop those kids from killing everyone else that comes down?

(Just moronic.)

Social engineering, living up there for three generations, children would not be like.
 
I have to admit that I didn't expect the people to voluntarily sacrifice themselves like that. I was especially shocked that they did die before the flares were visible in space, I kept expecting them to be saved at the last minute.
As anyone who saw that episode and the preview for this week's can probably guess, this week we are getting some major forward movement on the Grounders storyline.
The 100's Isaiah Whashington (Jaha), Eliza Taylor (Clarke), Bob Marley (Bellamy), Devon Bostwick (Jasper), and EP Jason Rothenberg were at WonderCon yesterday.
 
The show is entertaining enough (for now) though I wish the would do something with those annoying lens flare flashbacks.
 
This was the first episode that didn't work for me at all. Instead of picking up on the powerful and shocking events on the Ark, on how the characters up there are reacting to the discovery that they didn't need to kill those 300 people after all, we instead get a focus on a silly romantic triangle and flashbacks filling in a story we already mostly knew. Okay, it finally reveals who was behind the assassination plot, but the rest of it felt pretty pointless and was a frustrating digression from the more interesting story topside.

Also -- please, show, stop killing off black characters! This isn't the 1970s! Not to mention, what happened to Monty, the one Asian character among the 100? Aside from Raven, the gang on the ground is becoming disturbingly monochrome.
 
This EP was pretty good to me. It has typical CW stuff going on but I liked the flashback stuff for Octavia & Bellamy.
 
^Me too. We got some nice backstory flashbacks for Bellamy and Octavia, and we got the first steps in The 100/Grounders conflict that was set up in the pilot, which is something I've been looking forward to.
I'm wondering if we'll find out anymore about why the Grounder saved Octavia or if they'll just leave it there?
It was a little disappointing that we didn't get any Arc scenes this week, but they will be back next week, so we should see the aftermath of last week then hopefully. So far the show hasn't disapointed me, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when it comes to that kind of stuff.

Rewatching the preview, they do appear to be "interrogating" a Grounder, possibly Octavia's captor (savior?), so we might get some kind of answer to my question up thread then.
 
My guess is that the grounders are the descendents of the special forces guys from the military base the kids were originally sent to secure. The "bad guys" are the ones still protecting it, while the one who saved Octavia split off from them for reasons still unknown.

Why they're still sworn to protect it probably has something to do with why this area is relatively pure from the radiation.
 
Yeah, I was also wondering if it's going to turn out there are multiple groups of Grounders, with one group eventually allying with The 100 to fight an other group who are the ones who attacked Jasper in the pilot and Bellamy and Co. this week.
 
I just started to watch the show, having caught the first 3 episodes and now watching the fourth. It is like Lord of the Files meet The Hunger Games.
 
I didn't like Octavia in the beginning and now she is my favorite, I liked Clarke in the beginning and now she is annoying. :shrug:
 
I like them both.
I thought this was a pretty good episode. I'm glad to see that they are actually having Kane struggle with what he did. It will be interesting to see where things go now that they are apparently going to be in regular contact with the Ark, at least for now.
Next week's looks like it could be kind of fun. Apparently everybody gets stoned on berry's that they find.
[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqfpVUkKE5U[/yt]
 
Okay, just have to get this off my chest: They started out with 102 kids, and now they're down to 92? Or is it 93 counting Raven? In any case, has the show's title ever been accurate at any point? Maybe it should be called The 100ish.

Anyway, there was some stuff here I liked. In particular I loved Kane's crisis of faith. At first I thought he was a pretty clear-cut villain, but seeing him racked with guilt over his horrendous mistake was really potent, and it looks like he's at the start of a major change. Finally establishing contact between the two halves of the cast is good too, allowing progress on a lot of story threads. And the new dilemma about the lifeboats is an interesting new wrinkle.

Kate Vernon's Diana is another new wrinkle. I get the sense that she's an opportunist, that she manipulated the situation and played at "a show of unity" in order to get back into power. She might take Kane's place as the main antagonist up top. Anyway, it was interesting to see Vernon debut in the same episode where her Galactica co-star Alessandro Juliani makes his return to the show -- not to mention Caprica's Hiro Kanagawa returning as one of the councilors, though I don't recall if the poor guy got a line this week. (On this show, black characters get killed off and Asian characters get relegated to supporting roles -- or vanish without explanation, like Kelly Hu. It's an unpleasant trend.)

I did not like the continuation of the forced Clarke-Raven-Finn romantic tension. These are two strong, smart, responsible young women both determined to fight for the survival of their species, and it diminishes them both when they get sidetracked from life-or-death matters in order to act out formulaic jealousy beats. It's an annoying distraction from the stuff that's actually interesting.

And speaking of characters being diminished, I am so deeply, profoundly sick of TV shows using torture scenes as a plot device. I'm especially sick of scenes where the protagonists convince themselves they "need" to resort to torture to achieve a greater good. Torture is never anything more than something bullies do in order to feel powerful -- which was clearly what was going on with Bellamy here, as he ignored Octavia's defense of the Grounder because it didn't fit the narrative that let him make excuses for being a sadist. Now, that was totally in character, but what disgusted me was when Clarke and Raven both sank to the same level and it became a torture orgy. The one thing that redeemed it was that it didn't perpetuate the ugly and dangerous lie that torture is actually effective. Their torture gained them nothing, and it was Octavia's appeal to the Grounder's compassion that saved the day. That's an outcome I can be comfortable with, but I wish I hadn't had to sit through the preceding unpleasantness, and I wish TV writers in general would get over their collective fixation on torture as a fit subject for entertainment.
 
Okay, just have to get this off my chest: They started out with 102 kids, and now they're down to 92? Or is it 93 counting Raven? In any case, has the show's title ever been accurate at any point? Maybe it should be called The 100ish.

It was 101 in the pilot (that we know of) when the lander left the Ark (100 and Bellamy).

In the book there is a teen drama strand on the Ark as well. In the chaos that follows Bellamy's attempt to get on the Lander, one of the original 100 escapes - thus it's still 100 people to land on Earth. It could be something that they pick up further down the line.

We could probably figure out the number left - at least two died when the Lander crashed, the couple in the Acid Fog, Welles, Charlotte and Adam, then three in the Grounder attack when they went to rescue Octavia.

So it's probably down to the high eighties.
 
^I'm getting my numbers from the actual dialogue in the episode. The Grounder's journal showed nine people crossed out, and Bellamy said "That's how many we've lost." But you're probably right that it was 101, since it was nine lost, not ten. I must've mistyped.
 
Are you counting that all the women are pregnant?

Becuase they could easily be back up to a hundred considering how freely some of them are passing it around.

Or do they have to wait a month until the contraceptives in the Ark's prison-food runs out?
 
Two people die when the Lander crashes (stated in dialogue)
Couple in the Acid Fog
Adam
Charlotte
Welles
Three people died when they go to rescue Octavia (one - 'John' gets pulled into the trees, two - sets off the tripwire and gets impailed, three - 'Roma' gets impailed on a spear)

If you look at the book that they take from the Grounder - it actually has marks for 110 people (eleven marks across, ten down) and has ten marked off - which puts his belief that there are 100 of them left.

Bellamy states 'If I added up all of those marks it would add up to 102 ...' (the original 100, himself and Raven) and that 'ten are marked off'.

So you're right :)
 
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