Re: Creating a realistic crew manifest for a Starship. Ideas & comment
http://www.slideshare.net/complianc...rvision-training-by-naval-command-college-ncc
http://navyadvancement.tpub.com/14145/css/14145_120.htm
The Watch, Quarter, and Station Bill describes your billet, your sea & anchor detail position, damage control station, general quarters position, in-port watch, berthing, lifeboat station, and more. In your own division, there will also be a list of collateral duties, such as the divisional training PO, the supply PO (called Repair Parts PO), Leading Petty Officer, Ass't LPO, Work Center Supervisor (in charge of maintenance scheduling), and other positions.
Akirapide, there's no need for a janitorial staff; each division does their own field day/sweepers/etc. Quartermasters are not supply; we navigate.
I put this up years ago, it covers about a century of rates, so some will be replaced, added, or deleted over time.
Basically, I adapted the current naval enlisted rates
for Trek, and would like some feedback. What am I
missing, what needs tweaking, that sort of thing? If you
prefer enlisted to just all be generic crewman, that's
fine, but I'm not interested in that; I want more
realism. So I am asking for constructive criticism. What
can be trimmed, what needs to be expanded, and what
needs to be clearer?
some links to modern usage, in order to make it easier
to understand. I hope I managed to translate the jargon
enough for clarity. If not, let me know.
E-1 =Seaman/Airman/Fireman/Constructionman Recruit
(SR/AR/FR/CR) =Crewman Recruit (CR)
E-2 = Seaman/etc Apprentice (SA/AA/FA/CA) = Crewman
Apprentice (CA)
E-3 = Seaman/etc (SN/AN/FN/CN) = Crewman (CN)
E-4 =(rate) petty officer 3rd class (ex. BM3) = BM3
E-5 =(rate) p.o. 2nd class (ex.QM2) = QM2
E-6 =(rate) p.o. 1st class (ex. MM1) = TS1
E-7 =(rate) Chief Petty Officer (ex. MAC) = MAC
E-8 =(rate) Senior Chief petty officer (ex. MMCS) = TSCS
E-9 =(rate) Master Chief petty officer (ex. TMCM) = OTCM
Each rate has a two-letter (sometimes three, maybe even
fourletter) short-form, then the long name of the
rating, followed by what current rating (if any)
inspired it, and which dept(s) the rate is appropriate
for. Some small ships really juggle things around;
larger ships have more uniform departments. Then I
describe the job that rating does.
Here goes:
BM: Boatswain’s Mate based on modern BM/ABE/ABF/ABH.
Deck dept
Expert spacers who maintain the vessel, serve as
smallcraft coxswains, command tugs, look after rigging
and deck equipment (gangways, airlocks, tractor beams,
etc), operate, maintain, and repair small craft and
small craft gear & spaces, fuel and handle small craft
on deck.
CF: Flight Controller based on modern AC, Air Traffic
Controller. Flight or Ops dept. Clearance required.
CT: Communications Technician based on modern IT/RM, CT,
IC, SM, ST, EW, DP/DS Comm or Ops dept
Clearance required.
CT/CTO (IT/RM): maintain, repair, operate commgear
CTA (CTA) cryptography and admin
CTC (IT/DS) operate, maintain, repair computers,
netowrks, information systems
CTD (IT/DP) data sytem retrieval, archiuval,
maintainence specialist
CTI (CTI) Interpreter (specific language), cryptography
CTIC (IC) Operate, maintain, repair interior
communications and communicators
CTS (RM/SM) archaic signaling methods expert. Flags,
Morse code, radio, etc.
CTSS (CTT/EW/STG/STS) sensor specialist.
Mainatain/repair sensors
CTT (n/a) Communications theory specialist – rarely
assinged shipboard
CTU (n/a) Universal translator specialist
DC: Damage Controller based on modern DC. Engineering
dept
DE: Drive Engineer based loosely on modern BT/MM/GS/EN.
Engineering dept
Operate, maintain, repair warp and impulse drives on
small craft. Overlaps with WE/IE/RT. Eventually folded
into other rates by TNG era.
DT: Dental Technician based on modern DT. Medical Dept
Dentist’s assistant.
ES: Environmental Specialist. Based on modern EN/HT.
Engineering dept.
Operate, maintain, repair, and modify life support and
environmental equipment. Overlaps with SE.
FC:Fire Controller based on modern FC/FT. Weapons dept
Control, operate, maintain targeting & fire control
sensors, machinery, etc; target and fire ship’s phasers.
Overlap with OT & GM. Secondary component of security
alert teams. Clearance required.
GM: Gunner’s Mate. Based on modern GM. Weapons dept
and/or Security dept
Operate, maintain, repair, and secure all small arms and
portable weapons/combat equipment, man armory, perform
training and qualification with small/portable arms..
Assist OTs/FCs, and MAs as necessary. A primary
component of security alert teams.
GT: Gravitics Technician. Engineering dept/Life
support/environment division
Operate, maintain, repair all artificial gravity and
anti-gravity systems.devices.
HM: Hospital Corpsman (Corpsman). Based on modern HM.
Medical dept.
HT: Hull Technician/ShipFitter based on modern HT.
Engineering dept.
Maintain, repair hull, fittings, piping, machinery,
bulkheads.
IE: Impulse Engineer based on modern BT/MM’GS/EN.
Engineering dept.
Operate/maintain/repair ship’s impulse drive. Overlaps
with PT/TS/WE/DE/RT.
IS: Intelligence Specialist. Based on modern IS. Intell,
Comm, or Ops dept.
Collect, interpret, analyse intelligence, report and
brief on intelligence received. Shipboard version of
current affairs commentator with potentially (one would
hope) better source material. Clearance required.
JO: Journalist based on modern JO/PH/LI. Admin dept
Public affairs/press relations and information packaging
specialists
LA: Laboratory Assistant. Science dept.
Assist science officers in laboratory. Trained to
perform lab tasks, write reports, make observations, but
not to the level required of a science officer.
LN: Legalman. Based on modern LN. Admin or Legal dept;
JAG
Qualified Paralegals and notaries; assist Legal
Officers, act as legal officer on smaller ships.
MA: Master-At-Arms based on todays’ MA. Security or
Admin dept.
Maintain good order and discipline aboard ship, enforce
laws and regulations, conduct investigations, maintain
corrective custody, act as baliffs and security
personnel, maintain Lucky Bag (lost & found). Primary
component of security alert teams.
MS: Mess Specialist based on modern MS. Supply dept
Food service specialist
MT: Meteorology Technician based on modern AG. Science
or Ops dept.
Weather analyst/forecaster, provide briefs on
atmospheric conditions as they relate to small craft
flying in them.
Clearance required.
OS: Operations Specialist. Based on modern OS. Ops dept
Operate sensors (normally not including fire control or
scientific sensors), man CIC, detect/track/ships,
maintain secondary navigation plot, provide flight
controller services when no CFs assigned. Clearance
required.
OT: Ordinance Technician based on modern
AO/TM/MN/MT/FC/GM. Weapons dept.
Store, maintain, operate, repair, secure ordinance. Fire
torpedoes, store and maintain torpedoes and probes,
repair and maintain phasers. Overlaps with GM/FC.
Secondary component of security alert teams.
PC: Postal Clerk based on modern PC. Admin or Supply
dept.
Handles all incoming/outgoing packages and physical
mail. Assigned aboard large ships and to stations.
PN: Personnelman based on modern PN, DK. Admin dept.
Handles all personnel record, personnel reports,
evaluations, awards, and finances.
PT: Power Technician based loosely on modern EM/AE.
Engineering dept.
Maintain, repair, operate, control, and regulate power
systems, including ship’s batteries, EPS conduits, and
linear intermix chambers. Overlaps with RT, WE, IE, DE,
TS.
QM:Quartermaster based on modern QM. Navigation or Ops
dept, possibly also Science dept.
Perform navigation, plot courses, maintain charts and
stellar cartography (in conjunction with astrophysics).
Steer courses, especially under difficult conditions,
such as orbit, constrained spaces, atmospheric flight,
and operations alongside other ships. Take bearings,
make course/speed recommendations, maintain logs,
command small craft. May be qualified as coxswains, and
uphold service traditions. One of the oldest extant
rates.
RP:Religious Programs Specialist based on modern RP.
Medical or Chapel dept.
Assist chaplains, act as Lay Leaders in services, act as
chaplains on small ships, operate crew morale and
recreation programs. Typically, chaplains will be
assigned as division officers in Medical; large ships
and stations may have an actual Chapel dept.
RS: Reconnaissance Specialist . Security dept.
Similar to SGs and GMs. Act as SGs aboard ship; scouts
and SGs on planetary surfaces. Primary component of
security alert teams.
RT:Reactor Techician (TOS Era);Reactor/Intermix
Technician (TMP Era); Core Specialist [CS(TNG Era)]
based on modern BT/MM/ Engineering tech (Warrant Nuke
Power tech). Engineering dept.
Control, operate, regulate, maintain, repair
Matter/Antimatter reactors, fusion reactors, linear
intermix chambers, EPS conduits, and any other nuclear
or antimatter systems. Overlaps with WE/IE/DE/PT/TS.
Clearance required.
SE: Survival/EVA Equipment Specialist based loosely on
modern PR. Engineering, Flight, or Ops dept.
Operate, maintain, repair, and perform training and
qualification on survival/EVA equipment. Overlaps with
ES, SU.
SG:Security Guard based loosely on modern MA/GM.
Security or weapons dept.
Similar to MAs and GMs, perform guard duty and patrol,
primary component of security alert teams. Less
qualified and trained than GMs or MAs, SGs are more
readily available. Law enforcement powers and duties are
less than those of MAs.
SH: Ship’s Serviceman based on modern SH. Supply dept.
Operate ship’s store, station exchanges & commissaries,
ship’s barbershop and laundry. Assigns quarters on some
ships ( on others, this is handled by individual
departments, especially on ships with open bay berthing
for enlisted personnel).
SK: StoreKeeper (onetime Supply Clerk). Based on modern
SK, AK. Supply dept.
Supply clerks. Order, store, inventory, and issue parts
& equipment, maintain records and
maintain/secure/control cargo holds. Train and supervise
divisional Supply Petty Officers.
SS: Science Specialist__ . Science dept (Ops on some
small ships).
Technical specialists in a scientific discipline. More
qualified than Las, less so than Science Officers.
SSA: atmospheric specialty
SSB: Biology specialty (SSBB: botany;SSBF: fauna, SSBM:
miscroscopic life)
SSG: geology
SSO: Oceanography
SSP: Physics (SSPA:astrophysics, SSPN: Nuclear physics,
SSPM:multiphysics, SSPQ quantum physics)
SSS: Social Sciences (SSSA:archeology;SSSH:history,
SSSL:linguistics)
SSX:Xenology
ST: Sensor Technician based onmodern EW, STG/STS,
CTM/CTR. Ops or Comm dept.
Operate, maintain, repair sensors; perform
EW/ECM/ECCM/ELINT. Clearance required.
SU: Survival Specialist . Deck, Ops, or security dept.
Operate, maintain, repair survival gear, evaluate, train
and provide survival expertise in planetary environments.
Overlaps with SE and RS.
TO: Transporter Operator . Engineering, Deck dept.
disestablished, folded into BM, TT in TMP Era.
Operate, maintain transporter.
TS: Technical Specialist based on modern MM,
MR,PM,ET,AE,AD,AS,AT,AM,AS, and DS9 ep (O’Brien
identifies his rate/rating as “Senior Chief Technical
Specialist”, an E-8). Engineering or Ops dept.
Operate, maintain, repair most machinery. Overlaps with
PT, TT.
TT: Transporter Technician . Engineering dept.
Operate,maintain, repair transporters, fabricators, and
synthesizers (and replicators in TNG Era). Eventually
folded into TS.
WE: Warp Engineer based on modern BT, MM,GS. Engineering
dept.
Operate, maintain, repair warp drive. Overlaps with PT,
RT, IE, DE, TS
YN: Yeoman based on modern YN. Admin dept.
Secretarial, clerical, and administrative work. Prepare
and disseminate reports and documents. This is what
Yeomen really are, not generic grunts as seen in TUC.
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Flavius
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Re: Feedback requested on enlisted rates for
starf
#1945820 - 2003/10/20 06:25 PM
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Why is it 'rates' and not ranks?
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timmy84
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Reged: 2003/05/05
Loc: Kent, WA
Re: Feedback requested on enlisted rates for
starf
#1945871 - 2003/10/20 06:46 PM
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Posted by Flavius:
Why is it 'rates' and not ranks?
Rank is senority, while rate is more of pay grade.
A LT could be a higher rank then this other guy who made
just made LT. However they are both the same rate/grade.
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Mazelmavin
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Reged: 2003/07/21
Re: Feedback requested on enlisted rates for
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#1946459 - 2003/10/20 09:13 PM
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Looks interesting.
As a former nuclear technician it is interesting to see
what you got for the propulsion side of engineering.
Just FYI:
We used only three Rates: EM, MM, ET.
While you seem to use five: DE, IE, PT, RT, WE.
Just seems like an awful lot of overlap considering how
much more things would be automated. Also Starfleet
personnel seem to be better trained and less specialized.
On the same topic of overlap, MAs would be security,
inside the GM (weapons) dept, with SGs as temps from
other depts. Thats a close estimate on how the USN
handles security.
I'm also not so sure about Science specialists. LAs seem
to have that role covered. Especially in Starfleet where
every science specialist we saw was an officer. Now, you
can have LAs specializing in different sciences...
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Darkwing
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Reged: 2003/07/10
Loc: Top Gun, NAS Fallon, NV
Re: Feedback requested on enlisted rates for
starfleet
#1946951 - 2003/10/21 12:49 AM
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Quote:
Posted by Mazelmavin:
Looks interesting.
As a former nuclear technician it is interesting to
see what you got for the propulsion side of
engineering.
Just FYI:
We used only three Rates: EM, MM, ET.
While you seem to use five: DE, IE, PT, RT, WE.
Well, I figured Warp and impulse should be separate on
anything larger than the equivalent of a PC, so that
meant IE & WE. But I also felt that shuttles and scouts
would be simple enough that those could be combined in
such a case. Maybe DE should be a qualification,
instead?
PT is supposed to replace EMs, while RT handles the
reactor, based on BTs (later converted to MMs). Also,
note that this is a broad document covering over a
century - they'd probably have more conversions,
additions and deletions than I show.
Quote:
Just seems like an awful lot of overlap considering
how much more things would be automated. Also
Starfleet personnel seem to be better trained and less
specialized.
Officers, yes. Enlisted do specialise more and have less
broad training. It's a symbiotic tradeoff. I know a
number of decent navigators who also did reasonably well
as the Admin officer, PAO, and Legal O, who went on to
become OpsO, DCA, or First LT on other ships. But only
two really knew navigation the way the QM gang did. OS's
need to know navigation to backup the QMs primary plot,
but they also need to know a lot of other things we
don't, and so most OS' don't know navigation as in-depth
as the QM's.
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On the same topic of overlap, MAs would be security,
inside the GM (weapons) dept, with SGs as temps from
other depts. Thats a close estimate on how the USN
handles security.
Not on most surface ships. On carriers and amphibs, MAA
is a division of it's own, on small boys it's part of
admin. Security isn't a division or dept on most ships.
However, the Security Alert team and Backup Alert Force
are provided by other sailors as part of their duty day,
around a kernel of the Duty MA and the Comabt
Systems/Weapons types.
I figure SF, however, needs an actual security dept,
augmented the way the surface navy does it. I made SGs
to be security guards the way MAs are when assigned to
Physical Security, while MAs are MAs as they get
assigned to ships. I haven't decided if they should be
folded back into just MAs, or if the division should
stand. Another option is to fold them into RS, Recon
Specialists. As you can see, while I'm certain about
some parts of this conversion, I'm not so sure about
others.
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I'm also not so sure about Science specialists. LAs
seem to have that role covered. Especially in
Starfleet where every science specialist we saw was an
officer. Now, you can have LAs specializing in
different sciences...
Well, my thinking was that LAs should be able to handle
the basic lab tasks in any lab, but no real substantive
assistance. SS', though, should be able to handle the
routine tasks of running a lab and performing
experiments, much like grad students do for professors.
Maybe LAs should become another subset of SS?
I also figure that, if an experiment shows something,
the SS who did the actual work won't get the credit, the
staff officer scientist who ordered and nominally
supervised it will, much like today, and so we'd rarely
actually even see that the officer has underlings doing
the work while he makes the reports to the skipper and
reaps the rewards for it, thus keeping the surface the
same.
