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But at the end of the day the Doctor isn't supposed to look fashionable.

Says who?

First Doctor's clothes.
Second Doctor's clothes.
(Third Doctor was sort of fashionable for the late 60's / early 70's)
Fourth Doctor's clothes.
Fifth Doctor's clothes
Sixth Doctor's clothes.
Seventh Doctor's clothes.
Eighth Doctor's clothes.

And every incarnation you list was as "fashionable" for the times as Eccles or Ten, save perhaps Five and Six (and even that's debatable). I fail to see your reasoning...
 
And every incarnation you list was as "fashionable" for the times as Eccles or Ten, save perhaps Five and Six (and even that's debatable). I fail to see your reasoning...

Edwardian clothes were fashionable in 1963?

Tramps outfits in 1966?

Cricket outfits in 1982?

Abominations from hell in 1985?

Question mark jumpers in 1987?

Cowboy outfits in 1996?

Really?
 
Edwardian clothes were fashionable in 1963?

Fashionable? Sure. Just as they are right now. Trendy? Nope. And trendy is what you are talking about when it comes to Ten's "cool" look, not fashionable.

Tramps outfits in 1966?
They were worn by tramps, yes? And yes, Troughton was "trendy" as well, since he had a Beatles haircut. That wasn't by accident.

Cricket outfits in 1982?

Abominations from hell in 1985?
As in my quote, these two are debatable. However, RTD himself has said Colin's is the epitome of the 1980's, so take that for what you will.

Question mark jumpers in 1987?
Is that the only piece of clothing he wore? Really? You do know McCoy owned the hat, and actually wore it around in real life all the time, like many people who enjoy wearing similar hats. That's why it was part of his ensemble.

Cowboy outfits in 1996?
I can tell you're British if you think McGann's was a "cowboy" outfit. ;) No, McGann was the epitome of the Neil Gaiman 1990's that mixed Lord Byron romance with the Goth. Pretty obvious, given the console room.

Understand, at no point do I think you had a lot of people walking around in broad daylight dressed anything like The Doctor. But, that's just as true today. I don't see anyone walking around dressed like Eccles or Tennant. Do people wear leather jackets and Chuck Taylors? Sure. But, then again, people also had Beatles haircuts, scarfs, velvet smoking jackets, and some pretty ugly fucking 1980 coats or "punk" fashion.

The argument here isn't whether The Doctor is fashionable, which he is each and every time. He's fashionable for the time in which The Doctor is presented. But, is he always trendy? No. Only bits and pieces of him can honestly be said to succumb to the zeitgeist of whichever particular era the incarnation was on TV.

Thus, you have the very fashionable, and not very trendy, retro-geek of the 11th Doctor... :techman:
 
Meanwhile, you have the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's clothes, which look just fine.

There's nothing inherent to the Doctor that requires him to not be fashionable.

8 to 3 against though.

It only takes one incarnation of the Doctor to make something not be part of the essence of the character. Remember, the Doctor changes from regeneration to regeneration. So if even one Doctor is fashionable, then that means that there's nothing inherently unfashionable about the Doctor. He may most often be unfashionable, but this does not mean he is inherently unfashionable.
 
It should be noted that McCoy didn't wear the question mark outfit in the TV movie, and also several novel covers (and descriptions) depicted him in an all-white suit with tie.


Plus there's the Colin audio covers/animations with the blue outfit.
 
Says who?

First Doctor's clothes.
Second Doctor's clothes.
(Third Doctor was sort of fashionable for the late 60's / early 70's)
Fourth Doctor's clothes.
Fifth Doctor's clothes
Sixth Doctor's clothes.
Seventh Doctor's clothes.
Eighth Doctor's clothes.

Meanwhile, you have the Ninth and Tenth Doctor's clothes, which look just fine.

There's nothing inherent to the Doctor that requires him to not be fashionable.

I must have missed the U-Boat Commander/navvy phase of modern fashion ;)

At the end of the day the Doctor's look should look slightly out of place no matter where he goes, yet also stragely fit in almost anywhere. I think most of the Doctor outfits had fulfilled this criteria.
 
Edwardian clothes were fashionable in 1963?

Fashionable? Sure. Just as they are right now. Trendy? Nope. And trendy is what you are talking about when it comes to Ten's "cool" look, not fashionable.

Tramps outfits in 1966?
They were worn by tramps, yes? And yes, Troughton was "trendy" as well, since he had a Beatles haircut. That wasn't by accident.

As in my quote, these two are debatable. However, RTD himself has said Colin's is the epitome of the 1980's, so take that for what you will.

Question mark jumpers in 1987?
Is that the only piece of clothing he wore? Really? You do know McCoy owned the hat, and actually wore it around in real life all the time, like many people who enjoy wearing similar hats. That's why it was part of his ensemble.

Cowboy outfits in 1996?
I can tell you're British if you think McGann's was a "cowboy" outfit. ;) No, McGann was the epitome of the Neil Gaiman 1990's that mixed Lord Byron romance with the Goth. Pretty obvious, given the console room.

Understand, at no point do I think you had a lot of people walking around in broad daylight dressed anything like The Doctor. But, that's just as true today. I don't see anyone walking around dressed like Eccles or Tennant. Do people wear leather jackets and Chuck Taylors? Sure. But, then again, people also had Beatles haircuts, scarfs, velvet smoking jackets, and some pretty ugly fucking 1980 coats or "punk" fashion.

The argument here isn't whether The Doctor is fashionable, which he is each and every time. He's fashionable for the time in which The Doctor is presented. But, is he always trendy? No. Only bits and pieces of him can honestly be said to succumb to the zeitgeist of whichever particular era the incarnation was on TV.

Thus, you have the very fashionable, and not very trendy, retro-geek of the 11th Doctor... :techman:

To be fair there's a guy in Nottingham who dresses like Tennant...it's quite excrutiating because it's so obviously the exact look (brown striped suit and the coat, even the hair) I've yet to see anyone dressed like Colin Baker though :lol:
 
I must have missed the U-Boat Commander/navvy phase of modern fashion ;)

Come to my local, it's always 'in' there ;)

To be fair there's a guy in Nottingham who dresses like Tennant...it's quite excrutiating because it's so obviously the exact look (brown striped suit and the coat, even the hair) I've yet to see anyone dressed like Colin Baker though :lol:

I had to rethink my work look after I saw Tennants outfit. He spoiled Cons and suits for me - all of a sudden the look I'd worn for years became "Haw you, aye you, Doctor who like"

Upsetting.
 
At the end of the day the Doctor's look should look slightly out of place no matter where he goes, yet also stragely fit in almost anywhere.
It was like that time in "The Unquiet Dead" when he made Rose dress into a period frock, while he was perfectly fine going out in his regular outfit (changing his jumper of course!). :D
 
At the end of the day the Doctor's look should look slightly out of place no matter where he goes, yet also stragely fit in almost anywhere.
It was like that time in "The Unquiet Dead" when he made Rose dress into a period frock, while he was perfectly fine going out in his regular outfit (changing his jumper of course!). :D

Yeah, then he takes Martha to the 16th Century and just tells her to act like she belongs!
 
It was like that time in "The Unquiet Dead" when he made Rose dress into a period frock
Did he make her or did she do it of her own accord? I can't remember how exactly the scene was played.
 
It should be noted that McCoy didn't wear the question mark outfit in the TV movie, and also several novel covers (and descriptions) depicted him in an all-white suit with tie.


Plus there's the Colin audio covers/animations with the blue outfit.

ColinBakerthetwodoctors.jpg




McCoy550.jpg
 
Smith has a kind of eccentric and irratic dress sense. It works, its quirky, its way out there, and i was hoping they wouldnt take that and incorporate it into his dress sense for The Doctor, afterall, its Smiths personal prefrence, The Doctor is the character and therefore unlike Smith and has to be distanced from one another of sorts, i suppose.

Looking at Smith again now, its kinda growing on me. Its always a kinda shock when we see a new Doctor dressed, then we get used to it, although i tried and tried with Colin Bakers but, nah, i got nothing.

It should be noted that McCoy didn't wear the question mark outfit in the TV movie, and also several novel covers (and descriptions) depicted him in an all-white suit with tie.


Plus there's the Colin audio covers/animations with the blue outfit.

ColinBakerthetwodoctors.jpg




McCoy550.jpg

I always liked the alternate blue outfit for Baker, and i loved the 'new' McCoy look for the TV movie, it got shot of all those question marks and shit and made him look as if he could fit in anywhere he goes rather. Fraking question marks, i didnt mind them on Davisons collars, that was quaint and kinds WTF, and quirky at the same time.
 
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