Confirmed: Isis was NOT Victoria Vetri

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Greg Cox, Nov 11, 2018.

  1. johnnybear

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    But wasn't the Shat married as well at the time? :wtf:
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  2. Christopher

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    Hmm, maybe they cast her with an eye toward the potential spinoff series in which she'd presumably be a recurring player. After all, cats are very flexible, so it makes sense to cast a contortionist as the cat's human form.
     
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    I f one didn 't hire a contortionist . . . me-ow!
     
  4. The Old Mixer

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    Me-ouch on those puns.
     
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  5. mb22

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    From what I've read, that didn't stop him from hitting on other female co-stars at the time...
     
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  6. plynch

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    It was breaking up, because shortly after trek he went and lived in the camper on the beach right? With dog iirc. Not saying it was ok to do. Not really sure of the timing.
     
  7. Phaser Two

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    Yeah, you've got it pretty much exactly right.
     
  8. JonnyQuest037

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    I've never heard that he had it set up at the beach. My understanding was that Shatner slept in the camper when he was touring the country in traveling stage productions. The camper was in the back of his pickup truck and he would set it up in the parking lot of the theatres where he was performing. He did it to cut corners on his budget since the amount of his alimony was determined when he was still the star of Star Trek. As you might imagine, Shatner's income went down quite a bit without that regular job and he had to struggle for a few years there.

    Shatner tells a great story in his Star Trek Movie Memories book about how, on the night of the moon landing in 1969, a little boy thought his camper was a spaceship since it looked so much like the Apollo 11 capsule. Shatner gave the kid a tour of his "spaceship," saying that the shower was his transporter unit and making up other stuff on the fly.
     
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  9. Phaser Two

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    He did indeed occasionally set it up at the beach.
     
  10. Skipper

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    I don't know about that. Now I listened the podcast and it was just one-time job without any audition. I suppose that if they had intended to make her a recurring player, the process would have been more thorough. But I have to add that I have no idea what would be her role in an hypothetical series. Perhaps she would have to appear just for few seconds every episode being mute and, er, feline?

    Anyone has more information about her role in the aborted series?
     
  11. PhotoBoy

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    I wonder if they picked a contortionist thinking she could fold herself up and then cross fade to a shot of the cat to help sell the transformation?
     
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  12. Skipper

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    I thought that too, but she never had had any acting experience before that episode (she confirmed that in podcast). She was just an unaccredited extra and they didn't even check if she could speak a line. From that to a recurring player in a tv show perhaps is a little too much of a leap?

    Or, if we want to think ill of Roddenberry, perhaps he thought something like: "Uhmmm... a contortionist... a skimpy cat-like costume... I see potentiality in that... :shifty:"
     
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  13. Christopher

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    That's true. It's just that it's quite a coincidence that they randomly happened to cast an extra who had a skill that would've been perfect for the ongoing series. I'm not suggesting she was formally signed for the spinoff or anything -- just thinking that maybe it was in the back of someone's mind as a possibility when they decided to go with her for the part. At least, if they had gone to series, they probably would've at least auditioned her for the recurring part, so maybe somebody was informally, unofficially thinking ahead. Or maybe it was just a lucky happenstance. Black cats are good luck, after all. :evil:


    There is no doubt in my mind that Roddenberry would've thought something like that. There were probably few Hollywood producers at the time who wouldn't have thought that way.
     
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  14. mb22

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    If Roddenberry, or any of those other middle aged Hollywood producers tried any of her moves with her, they'd be headed to the hospital, fast.
     
  15. Skipper

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    In a better world, yes. Not in those days, not for an aspiring actress without any previous experience...
     
  16. Forbin

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    I've got a Shatner-camper story. It's a friend's story actually. My friend was a young security guard at a local mall where Shatner was performing in the mall theater. After work, my friend's car wouldn't start, so there he was with the hood up and a flashlight (he was a pretty good mechanic, actually), when Shatner, driving by in his camper, stopped and asked if my friend needed any help. Without thinking, he said no thanks I've got it. Shat said okay, have a nice night. It was only when Shat was pulling away that my friend realized it was Capt Kirk who was offering a hand. So whatever else we've heard about him over the years, we've figured he was a nice guy based on that.
     
  17. Redfern

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    I think MB22 meant if those men tried to replicate the poses she could perform, they would likely dislocate joints and/or their backs and thus need medical attention.
     
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  18. Christopher

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    ^Ahh, yes, mb22 said "tried any of her moves with her," not "tried any moves on her." But that wasn't what Skipper and I were talking about.
     
  19. Skipper

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    Oh yes!!! My bad!!!
     
  20. mb22

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    I meant if the producer would try any moves (sexual or otherwise) involving contortion. Whether Tatro could fend off anyone apart from that, I wouldn't know.