Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai
I think you make some good points here. I too really liked the opening Kelvin scene quite a bit as it felt much more like the Trek I am used to and comfortable with. As the movie progressed, and it settled into more of a modern style of pacing, I was left wondering where the old style of Trek story telling was, and if we would ever see it again. I was also jarred when I realized that there was to be no attention paid to trying to "rectify" the timeline. I.e. this alternate timeline was the one we would follow from here on out.
I have been thinking about the movie non-stop since I came home from it last night. I have spent much of today reading this bbs (and others) and the memory alpha content on the new movie. I think that people on both sides of the fence need to be a little sensitive. I.e. People who really like the new movie shouldn't slam people who did not fall in love with a VERY different type of Star Trek right away. (I am still grappling with the timeline/alternate universe issue). On the other hand, it is a mistake for people who are wedded to the canon to rigidly cling to it and bash the new movie when, for all intents and purposes, and for better or for worse, the franchise has moved on.
I think that when I first came home from the film I was in a state of Trek-shock. I thought that TPTB were literally saying, "TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY never happened!" I have done some reading, especially Orci's interview over at Trekmovie.com, and now it seems that that is not what they were trying to do (somebody correct me here if I am wrong), but it is still hard for me to accept that we have likely seen the last of that timeline (which I have been watching, reading, and thinking about for DECADES).
I consider myself an open minded person, so I am willing to give the new trek a second look despite my concerns after a first viewing. Most of my initial impressions were negative. In a similar vein, I liked but did not love ENT or DS9 during their first runs despite waching them all the way through, but rewatching both shows on DVD gave me a new appreciation for how each one tried to take Trek in a new direction and, in their own ways, succeeded. So, for now I am trying to keep an open mind about this seismic shift in the trek world, and see how things shake out over time.
Seconded.First I will say that I enjoyed the movie, and I didn't have to down any Kool Aid. I particularly emjoyed the opening sequences with the Kelvin, and I thought the exterior of the Enterprise was a thing of beauty.
The movie did leave me a bit melancholy because it I felt that the old style of Trek story telling has been swept away and replaced with a modern sensibility...sorta "Trek is dead. Long live Trek." Although I am mourning the Trek bygone days, I think I am going to enjoy the new installments just as much...
I think you make some good points here. I too really liked the opening Kelvin scene quite a bit as it felt much more like the Trek I am used to and comfortable with. As the movie progressed, and it settled into more of a modern style of pacing, I was left wondering where the old style of Trek story telling was, and if we would ever see it again. I was also jarred when I realized that there was to be no attention paid to trying to "rectify" the timeline. I.e. this alternate timeline was the one we would follow from here on out.
I have been thinking about the movie non-stop since I came home from it last night. I have spent much of today reading this bbs (and others) and the memory alpha content on the new movie. I think that people on both sides of the fence need to be a little sensitive. I.e. People who really like the new movie shouldn't slam people who did not fall in love with a VERY different type of Star Trek right away. (I am still grappling with the timeline/alternate universe issue). On the other hand, it is a mistake for people who are wedded to the canon to rigidly cling to it and bash the new movie when, for all intents and purposes, and for better or for worse, the franchise has moved on.
I think that when I first came home from the film I was in a state of Trek-shock. I thought that TPTB were literally saying, "TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY never happened!" I have done some reading, especially Orci's interview over at Trekmovie.com, and now it seems that that is not what they were trying to do (somebody correct me here if I am wrong), but it is still hard for me to accept that we have likely seen the last of that timeline (which I have been watching, reading, and thinking about for DECADES).
I consider myself an open minded person, so I am willing to give the new trek a second look despite my concerns after a first viewing. Most of my initial impressions were negative. In a similar vein, I liked but did not love ENT or DS9 during their first runs despite waching them all the way through, but rewatching both shows on DVD gave me a new appreciation for how each one tried to take Trek in a new direction and, in their own ways, succeeded. So, for now I am trying to keep an open mind about this seismic shift in the trek world, and see how things shake out over time.