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'Kay. And while he's perfectly free to pursue the matter as he sees fit, I'm not exactly sure what dog you have in this race.When the artist himself says, "someone stole my art", kinda makes it a valid claim.Dave Clarke is a regular on scifi meshes and was quite pissed off someone took it for a for-pay project, hence why i was asking.
I am about 60 pages in the book, I am really curious who or what the enemies are. Minor nitpicking, why do children in the trek books be extraordinary smart etc? It would be cool if they have normal or less than "normal/smart" children
Just completed this novel and wow. It reminds me of Destiny in it's scope, though I'm not surprised. To find some way to sync up the stories with canon was going to take some cataclysmic changes.
I have to admit all the deaths was almost overwhelming. I have come to consider the novel-verse characters almost as important as the original characters. To see Elfiki, Chen and Taurik gone was sad to see. And not to mention Dax. I can't believe it. They're certainly not holding anything back.
I was even sad to read about Wesley Crusher's older self dying. And what happened to Rene as well.
I rated the book above average. It was good for the most part but all the deaths were really depressing. I was surprised to learn the Devidians were the culprit from "Time's Arrow." I have to admit I wasn't expecting that. I fully expected the Krenim to be the culprits based on the last Voyager books, though I suppose they could still show up as some sort of culprit as well at some point.
This novel sets things up very nicely. And it'll be nice to see some loose ends tied up, like Taurik's look at future events. And I imagine we'll find out what's going on with DS9 in a future novel, and their is even a mention that Voyager and the Full Circle fleet are still off exploring outside the galaxy. It also brings in characters created by Christopher for his DTI novels.
I know it's not how things run with Star Trek but I've come to consider the novel timeline as the 'prime' timeline in my mind, I guess partly because I prefer it over that established in Picard and other shows. I'm very glad we are at least getting a conclusion to the novelverse timelines. S&S could have just ended things with Collateral Damage and said suck it up buttercup. But I'm glad they commissioned this trilogy to close things out. I suppose they saw what happened with the Star Wars expanded universe and how many of their fans felt left out in the cold (not to mention Star Wars had some funky way of rating their canon to the point at one time even their novels had some canon value---with Star Trek we always knew books had no canon value at all).
It'll be interesting to see how the story goes from here. It is my hope that the novel-verse timeline is saved. While I don't expect future novels from the novel-verse timeline, it'd be nice to have them succeed, save that timeline and sail off into the sunset to continue exploring new worlds and civilizations.
I have to admit all the deaths was almost overwhelming. I have come to consider the novel-verse characters almost as important as the original characters. To see Elfiki, Chen and Taurik gone was sad to see. And not to mention Dax. I can't believe it. They're certainly not holding anything back.
I was even sad to read about Wesley Crusher's older self dying. And what happened to Rene as well.
I rated the book above average. It was good for the most part but all the deaths were really depressing. I was surprised to learn the Devidians were the culprit from "Time's Arrow." I have to admit I wasn't expecting that. I fully expected the Krenim to be the culprits based on the last Voyager books, though I suppose they could still show up as some sort of culprit as well at some point.
This novel sets things up very nicely. And it'll be nice to see some loose ends tied up, like Taurik's look at future events. And I imagine we'll find out what's going on with DS9 in a future novel, and their is even a mention that Voyager and the Full Circle fleet are still off exploring outside the galaxy. It also brings in characters created by Christopher for his DTI novels.
I know it's not how things run with Star Trek but I've come to consider the novel timeline as the 'prime' timeline in my mind, I guess partly because I prefer it over that established in Picard and other shows. I'm very glad we are at least getting a conclusion to the novelverse timelines. S&S could have just ended things with Collateral Damage and said suck it up buttercup. But I'm glad they commissioned this trilogy to close things out. I suppose they saw what happened with the Star Wars expanded universe and how many of their fans felt left out in the cold (not to mention Star Wars had some funky way of rating their canon to the point at one time even their novels had some canon value---with Star Trek we always knew books had no canon value at all).
It'll be interesting to see how the story goes from here. It is my hope that the novel-verse timeline is saved. While I don't expect future novels from the novel-verse timeline, it'd be nice to have them succeed, save that timeline and sail off into the sunset to continue exploring new worlds and civilizations.
Recently got through the whole trilogy. It honestly wasn't the conclusion to the Novel Verse that I wanted and I left feeling pretty disappointed, more so than if they'd taken the Star Wars approach and just left it as it was. It was well-written for what the series was intended to be and did keep me invested in seeing how things turned out and I would never have guess who was behind the apocalypse, so kudos all around on that. All the meta stuff r.e. the Novel Verse ending due to the new TV shows also amused me.
@Dayton Ward , my favorite Novel Verse only character had been Lt. T'Ryssa Chen. I was not a fan of her dying so early in the game (or at all, although I suspected that was inevitable going into the books), but I do appreciate how you handled the death itself and taking time for a eulogy of sorts in the last chapter. One thing that I had a hard time with as the trilogy went on was that the deaths became so frequent and quick that there was no real time to process and "mourn" what happened. With Chen, there was that time to let it sink in and "come to terms" with it, which, as a novels-only character that we're probably never going to see again anywhere in the franchise, I think I "needed" to let the character go, if that makes any sense.
@Dayton Ward , my favorite Novel Verse only character had been Lt. T'Ryssa Chen. I was not a fan of her dying so early in the game (or at all, although I suspected that was inevitable going into the books), but I do appreciate how you handled the death itself and taking time for a eulogy of sorts in the last chapter. One thing that I had a hard time with as the trilogy went on was that the deaths became so frequent and quick that there was no real time to process and "mourn" what happened. With Chen, there was that time to let it sink in and "come to terms" with it, which, as a novels-only character that we're probably never going to see again anywhere in the franchise, I think I "needed" to let the character go, if that makes any sense.
Knowing for awhile that this trilogy is meant to be the final bow for the ST Novel-verse, I've kinda put off reading it, one reason being that I still have some past books to catch up on but mainly because I'm sad to see this pass, an end to a great era as far as I'm concerned. Still, it's blessing that this trilogy was commissioned with such a goal in mind, better still that what Disney did by blankly sweeping the Star Wars EU into mere Legends.
But I've decided it's time to see how All Good Things end yet again so I've started on the trilogy. Just finished Moments Asunder and I must say, quite good, gave it an Above Average rating. The scope and feel is indeed epic, the crossover nature and appeal on full display, I loved this initial focus on the Enterprise crew. Choice of enemy is quite interesting. Besides, being a Who fan as well, I'm a sucker for these types of timey-wimey stories.
Two items stand out to me though: first is Wesley. Having read of him previously in the Cold Equations trilogy, I'm very curious and intrigued over his abilities and status as a Traveler, in fact, given what all I've seen written so far about him, it's a shame nothing of this sort made it on-screen. Has he ever encountered Q in the novels? The scenes of him with literally the weight of the universe & time on his shoulders coupled with family moments with Beverly and Picard and even Rene were well-done indeed.
The other is the deaths of some quite prominent characters. I suppose in a trilogy of this nature, with this stated goal in mind, it shouldn't come as any surprise but they did come as a kick in the teeth. I had to stop a few times to re-read passages just to make sure I read it right and DAMN, I did read right.
Chen's death hurt the most though. I've grown to like her from past novels but man, this was brutal especially after her finding the strength to carry on after Elf and Taurik's deaths. The passages of Picard's last moments with her and his reflections on her life and influence were very well done, much appreciated.
I also want to say thank you for the brief primer in the book's prologue about the major events leading up to this, given me some more books to catch up with.
But if all this happened in Book One, I'm fearful for what is next but onward to Ashes of Tomorrow
But I've decided it's time to see how All Good Things end yet again so I've started on the trilogy. Just finished Moments Asunder and I must say, quite good, gave it an Above Average rating. The scope and feel is indeed epic, the crossover nature and appeal on full display, I loved this initial focus on the Enterprise crew. Choice of enemy is quite interesting. Besides, being a Who fan as well, I'm a sucker for these types of timey-wimey stories.
Two items stand out to me though: first is Wesley. Having read of him previously in the Cold Equations trilogy, I'm very curious and intrigued over his abilities and status as a Traveler, in fact, given what all I've seen written so far about him, it's a shame nothing of this sort made it on-screen. Has he ever encountered Q in the novels? The scenes of him with literally the weight of the universe & time on his shoulders coupled with family moments with Beverly and Picard and even Rene were well-done indeed.
The other is the deaths of some quite prominent characters. I suppose in a trilogy of this nature, with this stated goal in mind, it shouldn't come as any surprise but they did come as a kick in the teeth. I had to stop a few times to re-read passages just to make sure I read it right and DAMN, I did read right.
Chen's death hurt the most though. I've grown to like her from past novels but man, this was brutal especially after her finding the strength to carry on after Elf and Taurik's deaths. The passages of Picard's last moments with her and his reflections on her life and influence were very well done, much appreciated.
I also want to say thank you for the brief primer in the book's prologue about the major events leading up to this, given me some more books to catch up with.
But if all this happened in Book One, I'm fearful for what is next but onward to Ashes of Tomorrow
Have you not seen season 2 of Picard?
You think the deaths in this book are a kick in the teeth? 'Tis but the tip of the iceberg...
So far, I've made it up to the episode with the wonderful James Callis making a guest appearance. So, something Wesley-related to look forward to, hm? Very good indeed.
