Spoilers Coda: Book 1: Moments Asunder by Dayton Ward Review Thread
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You know he apologised, which was accepted by Rapp, and you could accept that. It's not very star trek (nor liberal or progressive) to hold onto (irrelevant) grudges. He's also a fantastic voice on owning up to complicity in systemic racism, which is actually really great to see. Just really not cool, Haunted House.
For those of us who don't have the time to watch a 37 minute interview, can you tell us what the controversy was about? This is the first I'm hearing about this.
He said some stupid shit when Rapp revealed he'd been molested by Spacey on twitter; he subsequently apologies to Rapp, who accepted it like a gent.
But people (which included KRAD on a tor.com review) always seem to remember the sin, not the contrition or forgiveness that happened pretty quickly after.
There is some of it here too - https://twitter.com/ManuIntiraymi/status/1233741900592476160?s=20.
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Attempting to very carefully not be spoilery about book two...
The temporal incursion is a lot like climate change -- it's a big, existential threat to civilization that individuals are powerless on their own to do anything about.
The first book, being the discovery of the existential threat, presents it in a way that is almost too remote for our our heroes to grapple with, first understanding it, then trying to do anything about it. That's not a criticism of the book; it's simply a reflection of the nature of the threat and the fact that, for our heroes, the threat is most present four thousand years into the future, which serves to make it even more distant and remote, and makes the consequences of that threat -- the deaths of various characters -- feel a bit meaningless.
The second book acknowledges the remoteness of the threat in a way that helps drive the plot and, at the same time, makes the threat much more personal to the characters so that, when characters die, the deaths are for a reason and have meaning. Ezri and Chen's deaths didn't hurt me. I'm still wrecked by one in book two four days after reading it.
Increasingly, I think this is a story that wraps up the novel continuity, not a continuity implant that prunes the novel continuity back so it can join up with Picard. Events have consequences and characters, both literary and canon, will die, but that's not "trashing it on the way out." That's just the stakes of this story and the lengths to which the characters will go to avert the existential threat to their civilization.
Fans are under no obligation to forgive Manu just because Anthony Rapp was big enough to accept his apology. There's more context that may be feeding people's unwillingness to extend him the benefit of the doubt.
Getting back to the book:
It's helped me to remember that the novel continuity has gone through changes like this before, only they weren't quite as drastic because there simply was less continuity.
Getting back to the book:
It's helped me to remember that the novel continuity has gone through changes like this before, only they weren't quite as drastic because there simply was less continuity.
Whether it be a grudge/irrelevant is one thing, but I accept that I was unnecessarily unpleasant about it. I still totally feel that way but yeah, better ways. I appreciate the call out.
Sorry if I was harsh - and thanks for writing too
Not at all, I think it was you not being harsh that got me
Our Positively Trek Book Club episode about Moments Asunder is up! We had a great conversation with Dayton Ward, he's always great. Check it out and let us know what you think!
Hmm. Devidians. Oh, my.
Although there are things that make me think of Kalandans, too.
Although there are things that make me think of Kalandans, too.
-- NewIndiana J'onns
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Who made the cover art? The model/sovereign class image is stolen art from IRML/Dave Clarke of the "What you leave Behind" documentary CG team just squashed and slightly rotated. I'm curious who decided to nick art without approval, does anyone know?
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The cover art would be made or commissioned by the publisher (Gallery Books / Simon and Schuster?) under license from the company that owns the rights to the Enterprise E's image (CBS I assume).
Stolen is a bold claim
Stolen is a bold claim
That information is available on the book's back cover.
The other ship (and station) shots were all stock images, with the swirly background being the primary original element. Aventine was from the cover of the Eaglemoss model magazine, DS9 II was from one of Doug Drexler's Facebook test renders, and the Defiant was an old, old publicity shot from the run of the series. The E-E was the only one I couldn't place, which makes sense, now that I know it wasn't from an official source.
It's never a good look to just pull fan-art for stuff that's officially commissioned. We've spoken recently here about it happening frequently in comics, but Star Wars as a franchise has a real problem with commissioned artists taking fan work off the internet rather than making their own stuff. Ansel "Fractalsponge" Hsiao has had it happen to him a lot, from his Star Destroyer model being used in the trailer for the video game "The Force Unleashed" in a cinematic rendition of the game's climactic scene of the ship being pulled out of orbit, and a reference book having "drawings" of various ships which were just renders from his website with an outline filter applied to them. One of the recent anime shorts also used a fan-made redesign of the B-Wing as a different ship.
It's never a good look to just pull fan-art for stuff that's officially commissioned. We've spoken recently here about it happening frequently in comics, but Star Wars as a franchise has a real problem with commissioned artists taking fan work off the internet rather than making their own stuff. Ansel "Fractalsponge" Hsiao has had it happen to him a lot, from his Star Destroyer model being used in the trailer for the video game "The Force Unleashed" in a cinematic rendition of the game's climactic scene of the ship being pulled out of orbit, and a reference book having "drawings" of various ships which were just renders from his website with an outline filter applied to them. One of the recent anime shorts also used a fan-made redesign of the B-Wing as a different ship.
Not very helpful to people who bought the audiobook. (And possibly the ebook.)
no back cover on the ebook.
When the artist himself says, "someone stole my art", kinda makes it a valid claim.
Dave Clarke is a regular on scifi meshes and was quite pissed off someone took it for a for-pay project, hence why i was asking.