Clone Wars is returning!

Discussion in 'Star Wars' started by Tuskin38, Jul 19, 2018.

  1. Reverend

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    The 'Ahsoka' novel touches on this a little bit (apparently the author had access to at least parts of the 'Siege of Mandalore' arc scripts) and in one of the previous panels from a few years back, Dave showed some sketches and shared a few ideas he had of an "Ahsoka on the run" episode. It involved her making friends with giant wolves...because: Filoni.
    So I think there's a chance that at least the final episode will be an denouement or epilogue of sorts, taking place after Order 66.
    Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if the last shot flashes forwards to Gandalf Ahsoka finishing up her last Clone Wars holocron recording before going to pick up Sabine...

    What little is mentioned indicates that Ahsoka and Rex faked each other's deaths to make it look like they killed each other in Order 66, with another clone's body in Rex's armor buried in a shallow grave and her discarded lighsabers to serve as "proof" of their demise.
     
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  2. Campe98

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    Uh, first, I’m fairly certain GL was fairly heavily involved with a The very least the initial story ideas of all the episodes that were in the works for TCW. Even if he wasn’t, Katie Lucas is credited for writing the episode. She might have an ability to talk to her dad and see his intentions.

    In fact, here’s a quote from Filoni:

    Maybe do a little research before you attack things. I’m not always thrilled with the decisions made by creative types and I honestly find GL to be a bit of an unreliable source sometimes on some behind the scenes stuff but I can accept his choices if he’s involved. George created the clones. He came up with the idea of Order 66. And if the quote is to be believed (and I have no reason not to), he was instrumental in the decision to chip the clones.
     
  3. Ithekro

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    The new Mandalorians were all George. They even did a video about it when they brought it up the first time in The Clone Wars. Lucas brought up the subject. Filloni and the rest brought out all the materials that had come out on that race since the Holiday Special first showed us Boba Fett, and its a lot of material. Lucas gave them his take and they went to make that work. Why? Because he was their boss. Until Disney took over, the buck stopped with George Lucas.

    And I know the argument against the "Pacifist Mandos". Its been thrown out a dozen times at least. If one actually looks at the content, its a phase in their government and peoples as a reaction to the long, long series of wars their people have fought and died in. This change makes them less the one dimensional Star Wars variety of the Klingons and more like a real species. Their planets are almost uninhabitable from all the wars. Large parts of the planets are devoid of life outside the domes. The place was glassed more than once. Concord Dawn was hit by something major to have a chunk of the planet blown off. It was the Duchess' experiment. It worked for maybe fifteen years, and then came down around her in the Clone Wars. The experiment might have been enough to bring enough life back to the planet for the race to survive, but that was about it. The Siege of Mandalore is the remaining loyalist "old school" warriors of Mandalore fighting to take their world back from the corrupted criminal element they allied with to bring down the Duchess, and realizing they need the Republic to help, because there aren't enough of them anymore to win their own war with too many "traitors" on Maul's side.

    The problem will be of course, that the Republic is going to start its sudden hard transition into the Empire at the same time. While the Mandos won't care too much if the Jedi are slaughtered, they will have issues with the Clone Troopers occupying their planet in the name of the Emperor. We see the results of this in Rebels, where they Mandos are warriors still, with honor of their own, but divided and unsure how to deal with the Empire.
     
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  4. Tuskin38

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    The chips were all George's idea.
     
  5. fireproof78

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    I may not like all of the decisions GL made over the years but I will always respect the fact that he told the stories he wanted to tell.

    What's more amusing to me is how much Filioni is lauded but Lucas can be ignored...
     
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    That's why I love how much praise Dave gives Lucas virtually every time he is interviewed. He's probably well aware of the shit George gets so it's nice to see him remind the fan base where most of the ideas come from.
     
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  7. Tuskin38

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    Lucas considered Filoni to be one of his successors.
     
  8. Reverend

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    For those that don't want to, or don't have time to sit through the whole panel (though I highly recommend it, it's a very entertaining panel) here's the clips of new material that was shown.
    The Bad Batch: -

    Ahsoka on walkabout: -

    Commander Tano: -
     
  9. Reverend

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    Watching these back, a few little details jumped out at me; First off Ahsoka's outfits seem to be different from the concept and design work previously exhibited (the one with the boot monkey!) Could this just be part of the process of rejigging those episodes to make the whole thing a more cohesive, connected storyline (possibly ditching the "journey under the temple" episode) or because that design was used on the Ahsoka novel's cover and it'd be weird for her to not get a change of clothes for over a year?

    Whatever the reason, I note that the outfit they seem to have her in for the Mandalore arc is itself some kind of slimmed down Mandalorian armour, complete with the characteristic elongated hexagon on the chest plate. Which is a neat detail.

    Not a huge deal by any means, but her blades being blue now do create a tiny continuity discrepancy with the aforementioned novel. Again, not a big deal but it seems to indicate that this is something new, not included in the original script that E.K. Johnston was presumably given access too.
    Does this mean Anakin rebound her crystals for her? Or did he have to replace her original crystals with all new ones? The former seems more likely but begs the question: why? Do the Jedi habitually dismantle the sabres of departed members? I mean IIRC they didn't appear to have been damaged when she lost them. It's also possibly Anakin just did it "just because" but that seems a little weird no? I mean isn't binding a crystal supposed to be kind of a personal, bordering on sacrosanct thing for Jedi?
     
  10. kirk55555

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    Well, then he is an idiot, and that is already well known. George Lucas is the last person who should have been making decisions related to SW post ROTJ, so him being involved in the stupidity of the brain chips doesn't change anything. He may have created SW, but by the time TCW was being made he was easily the worst writer to have ever worked on the franchise.

    Just because Lucas did something doesn't make it good (See: Everything he did post ROTJ), and I'm surprised that anyone would use his involvement as a defense for anything related to SW at this point. That's like claiming that Star Trek TMP, or TNG Seasons 1 or 2 were good because Roddenberry had control. A creator of a property is very capable of becoming completely inept at working on the property, which is something that fans of Star Wars and Star Trek should know quite well.
     
  11. fireproof78

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    I'm not. Just look at the reactions (and some demands) around the Internet regarding Episode IX and Lucas' involvement.

    No reason for name calling.
     
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    "I was expecting Kenobi. Why are YOU, here?"

    "Your boss wants my boss to kill him for, reasons."
     
  14. JD

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    Nice trailer, I'm curious what leads to Ahsoka going back to the Jedi.
     
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