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Christopher Eccleston finally speaks about why he left Doctor Who

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No. Christopher Eccleston is not a bigot or homophobic. Numerous interviews confirm he asked Russell T. Davies (who is openly gay) to work on Doctor Who since he admired and loved RTD's work (most famous for Queer As Folk). So literally A WORLD OF NO.

I personally believe one of two possibilities:

- Christopher Eccleston is in his private life gay and he was asked by BBC management to stay in the closet for promotional reasons.

- Christopher Eccleston was forced out to make way for a sexier Doctor.
 
Sounds to me like he just didnt like all the homosexuality going on (the Captain Jack kiss the constant references etc) - dont forget Eccleston is a pretty old guy and old people tend to be a lot less tolerant about such things than young people are.

What tosh, he's about the same age as me.

Age has nothing to do with being bigoted, there are plenty of young homophobic idiots out there..

You know, I think that if someone doesn't necessarily agree with the point of view of homosexuality, then they are instantly labeled a bigot.. is so wrong..

if someone disagrees with a point of view I have, then I am okay with that, yet there are those who instantly jump on others because they aren't accepting of their lifestyle, or whatever.. it's hypocritical in my point of view..

so what if Chris isn't fond of homosexuality.. does that mean he should be chastised for his own right to hold his own opinion.. if we forced everyone to like or agree with everything in the world, then it would be a pretty boring place.. dissenting opinions are what makes life interesting..disagreeing with homosexual themes in a job is much different from being a bigot and kicking the crap out of a gay person for the simple pleasure of hatred..

I don't think Chris is a bigot, just not on the same page as some.. I myself am not gay, I think that if someone were gay they can certainly exercise that right.. but were I forced to support that point of view in a job, and have that affect my beliefs, I might walk away as well..but I am no bigot..just disagree

Sounds to me like he just didnt like all the homosexuality going on (the Captain Jack kiss the constant references etc) - dont forget Eccleston is a pretty old guy and old people tend to be a lot less tolerant about such things than young people are.
Indeed, Eccleston's well-known homophobia is why he only worked with Russell T Davies on The Second Coming and never again.


why does there have to be a label put on a different opinion.. why do people have to accept every point of view for them to not be considered a homophobe or bigot.. it's maddening..

I don't like calling the sport of soccer- football, because here in the US we call football- soccer.. so that must make me a FOOTBALLAPHOBE CAUSE I PREFER SOCCER as the term instead of football.. so I am a bigot cause I think it should be called soccer, even if the game of football was called football in many other countries before the advent of American football..

why do those who seek not to be labeled because they share a different point of view then the rest, then turn around and label all those who are not accepting of their point of view as a bigot, racist, homophobes, chauvinist, liberal, conservative, neo-con, capitalist pig, communist, and so on, and so on..

I think if Chris wants to disagree with working in a job that promotes homosexuality then that is his right as a human being..and should not be labeled something evil. those who promote tolerance should look the other way and promote tolerance of those who disagree as well..otherwise it is hypocritical to force those who aren't of the same mind into following along..


you know what, and to just be fair, I think I am going to be overly heterosexual today around some people I know are openly homosexual.. and if they scoff at me and disagree with my point of view, I am going to have to label them heterophobic..
 
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I myself am not gay, I think that if someone were gay they can certainly exercise that right.. but were I forced to support that point of view in a job, and have that affect my beliefs, I might walk away as well..but I am no bigot..just disagree
Yep. I'm the same with red hair. I disagree with it. Yet some people just want to shove their red-hair-love down my throat! Come on, folks: red hair just happens to be an opinion I disagree with. Does that make me a bigot? I think not.
 
You know, I think that if someone doesn't necessarily agree with the point of view of homosexuality, then they are instantly labeled a bigot.. is so wrong..

It's not a Point Of View, it's how you're born. Is being Black a Point Of View too?
 
Sounds to me like he just didnt like all the homosexuality going on (the Captain Jack kiss the constant references etc) - dont forget Eccleston is a pretty old guy and old people tend to be a lot less tolerant about such things than young people are.

What tosh, he's about the same age as me.

Age has nothing to do with being bigoted, there are plenty of young homophobic idiots out there..

Thank you Pindar. I was going to say that. :techman:
 
you know what, and to just be fair, I think I am going to be overly heterosexual today around some people I know are openly homosexual.. and if they scoff at me and disagree with my point of view, I am going to have to label them heterophobic..

Being gay isn't a religion or a point of view. Please understand that people are born attracted to the same-sex or the opposite-sex. Second, please understand that just as you don't care if someone finds you liking the opposite sex is unnatural, we don't care if you find us liking the same-sex unnatural.

Yes, it is bigotry. It's bigotry when you don't like someone who is Islamic, which is a point of view. It is bigotry when you don't like someone who is exactly like you. "A dislike for the unlike", exactly as Ian Chesterton described the Daleks.

And no, Christopher Eccleston is not a bigot.
 
Without continuing the discourse on homophobia and being bigoted, I want to put the question forward in a serious way... and I don't even know how to ask it without sounding like a bigot myself (and I'm not).

Is it possible that Eccleston has a problem with homosexuality, and the environment of the show, on and off (perhaps especially off) camera was so "homosexuality is OK/great" that he just was unable to work comfortably in that environment?
 
Is it possible that Eccleston has a problem with homosexuality, and the environment of the show, on and off (perhaps especially off) camera was so "homosexuality is OK/great" that he just was unable to work comfortably in that environment?

Please point to anything, ANYTHING, ANYTHING to show that the well know left-wing Liberal Christopher Eccleston has any problems with homosexuality.

He quit because of (a) major production problems early in the run and (b) not getting the involvement in the creative process he wanted.
 
It's possible that he didn't like the crew management style. It's possible he disagreed with the direction. It's possible he couldn't stand some people. It's possible the BBC shafted him and he's too much of a professional to say so. It's possible he didn't like the relentless work schedule. Shall I go on.
 
Without continuing the discourse on homophobia and being bigoted, I want to put the question forward in a serious way... and I don't even know how to ask it without sounding like a bigot myself (and I'm not).

Is it possible that Eccleston has a problem with homosexuality, and the environment of the show, on and off (perhaps especially off) camera was so "homosexuality is OK/great" that he just was unable to work comfortably in that environment?

I suppose it is possible. However given that he's an actor and it is safe to assume that an awful lot of gay people work quite openly in that environment (probably more so than a lot of other environments) then if he has an issue you'd imagine he was maybe in the wrong business. Besides he's worked with RTD before so must know/like/respect him. He's also worked on League of Gentleman, a show created/written by at least one gay man (Gatiss).

Worth mentioning that the Dr Who story with the most gay characters in it was actually written by a straight man, and given that one of those characters is a con man, and another a man cheating on not only his wife but his community, it's hardly a glowing representation (as it shouldn't be, gay people are no different to straight people in that they're good/ bad/noble/ cowardly idependently of their sexuality)

There's the kiss but he is an actor, and I'm pretty sure if he hadn't been comfortable with it it wouldn't have been a huge deal (lets face it it would have been more traditional for Jack to shake the Doctor's hand wouldn't it?)

Seriously I think occams razor comes into play here; the simplest reasoning is that suggested way way way above it was a combination of a tough shooting schedule, disagreements with one director, and the fact that the Beeb possibly messed him about over his contract.)
 
The idea that he might have quit because of kissing scenes with Jack is the dumbest thing i've read today. Of all the actors around to play the doctor kissing another dude he was probably the most comfortable, professional and enough of a real actor to actually do a scene like that. Have we seen the 10th or 11th Doctor kiss a guy? No. But yet the actor that actually did a kiss scene with a guy is somehow anti gay? WTF?

I think Eccleston is being polite in his views obviously and holding back a bit. I think it's somethign he really wanted to be a part of and whatever was going on behind scenes just didn't sit with him right. I think it could be personal disagreements etc.

If it wasn't for him we might not be watching new episodes of Who these days. Season 1 started off weak but blew me away in the end and I find it to be a very strong season. Personally I loved "Boom Town" and that conversation the Doctor had over dinner with the slitheen.
 
- Christopher Eccleston is in his private life gay and he was asked by BBC management to stay in the closet for promotional reasons.

The BBC? Get real. They would have been parading him round like a prize bull.
Hahaha, yeah.

I highly doubt his leaving has anything to do with the homosexuality all over the place. It's clearly because he thought the show was bloody rubbish.
 
I know its been said its not because he was afraid of being typecast, but I honestly do feel it that was a part of it. I can't find the vid at the moment, but when he first appeared on Friday Night with Jonathon Ross way back when, Wossy was really overstating the fact that he's Doctor Who, he's playing a legend and all that bollocks, and then to top it all off brought out the first action figure of him as the Doc. I know its been a while since ive seen it, but you could see the shock in his eyes at it all and im damn sure it overwhelmed him. Like I said, it may not have been the typecasting thing, maybe it was the fact that the BBC/Producers treated him like shit and were so willing to exploit his image, but considering he announced his leaving soon after that appearance, im sure that had something to do with it.
 
I know its been said its not because he was afraid of being typecast, but I honestly do feel it that was a part of it. I can't find the vid at the moment, but when he first appeared on Friday Night with Jonathon Ross way back when, Wossy was really overstating the fact that he's Doctor Who, he's playing a legend and all that bollocks, and then to top it all off brought out the first action figure of him as the Doc. I know its been a while since ive seen it, but you could see the shock in his eyes at it all and im damn sure it overwhelmed him. Like I said, it may not have been the typecasting thing, maybe it was the fact that the BBC/Producers treated him like shit and were so willing to exploit his image, but considering he announced his leaving soon after that appearance, im sure that had something to do with it.

Yeah. You do have to wonder when he says 'culture' if what he might actually mean is fandom.
 
I know its been said its not because he was afraid of being typecast, but I honestly do feel it that was a part of it. I can't find the vid at the moment, but when he first appeared on Friday Night with Jonathon Ross way back when, Wossy was really overstating the fact that he's Doctor Who, he's playing a legend and all that bollocks, and then to top it all off brought out the first action figure of him as the Doc. I know its been a while since ive seen it, but you could see the shock in his eyes at it all and im damn sure it overwhelmed him. Like I said, it may not have been the typecasting thing, maybe it was the fact that the BBC/Producers treated him like shit and were so willing to exploit his image, but considering he announced his leaving soon after that appearance, im sure that had something to do with it.

He was already gone by that point and just living out his contractual publicity obligations.
 
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