Christopher Eccleston finally speaks about why he left Doctor Who

[Captain Shaw]

He didn't give exact reasons. Clearly, since we've had 6 pages of speculation about what he was alluding to.

This is Trek BBS we could have a Video showing us the exact reason why he left and their still would be some people who would say there is more to it.

 

[Deckerd]

Yes but the point is he didn't give clear reasons. He gave unclear reasons.

 

[DWF]

I wonder if the reasons why Mal Young and Eccleston left are related.

 

[Cutter John]

Kinda embarassed to say the 'gay' thing was the first thing I thought of. At least until I recalled the kiss. I'm sorry, but I can't see any way they could have forced him to do that scene if he really objected.

I highly doubt his leaving has anything to do with the homosexuality all over the place. It's clearly because he thought the show was bloody rubbish.

No...I'm pretty sure thats just you.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Maybe he didn't like the CGI...
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/...n-parodies-dr-who-with-christopher-eccleston/

 

[Bones2]

I highly doubt his leaving has anything to do with the homosexuality all over the place. It's clearly because he thought the show was bloody rubbish.

No...I'm pretty sure thats just you.

Despite being my least favourite Doctor, compared to the rest of RTD's era Eccleston's season stands up pretty well. There are some genuinely solid stories in there. And it's clear as day to anyone who's heard what he's got to say and can fill in the gaps with some of the more prominent rumours that he disliked the writing, the culture, and working on the show. And when he's got Barrowman strutting around all day being lewd with his nob out, who can blame him?

 

[The]

Despite being my least favourite Doctor, compared to the rest of RTD's era Eccleston's season stands up pretty well. There are some genuinely solid stories in there. And it's clear as day to anyone who's heard what he's got to say and can fill in the gaps with some of the more prominent rumours that he disliked the writing, the culture, and working on the show. And when he's got Barrowman strutting around all day being lewd with his nob out, who can blame him?

No...I'm pretty sure thats just you.

 

[bryce]

http://www.plyrics.com/lyrics/deadmilkmen/stuart.html

Now Stuart, if you look at the soil around any large U.S. city with a big
underground homosexual population - Des Moines, Iowa, perfect example.
Look at the soil around Des Moines, Stuart. You can't build on it, you
can't grow anything in it. The government says it's due to poor farming.
But I know what's really going on, Stuart. I know it's the queers.
They're in it with the aliens. They're building landing strips for gay
Martians. I swear to God.

Yep. I bet he quit because of gay Martians.

Well gay marriage is now legal in Iowa (of all places!)

Hummmm....

 

[Sci]

And it's clear as day to anyone who's heard what he's got to say and can fill in the gaps with some of the more prominent rumours that he disliked the writing, the culture, and working on the show.

You're right, it's completely clear what he disliked to anybody willing to make stuff up and put words in his mouth.

You don't know that he's alluding to any of those "more prominent rumors;" you are making a completely unfounded assumption. For all you know, he may have quit because he felt that the extras on the show weren't receiving adequate pay.

We don't know. That's all we can say honestly -- something was happening that Eccleston objected to, and we don't know what it was.

 

[diankra]

Isn't it pretty well established that the first production block was a bit chaotic, partly because of the director, and partly because everyone was working ouit how to do this again?
Eccleston is very keen on people doing their job well, and knowing what they're doing, so that soured him on the show from day one, and while things improved as the season went on, they hadn't improved enough to win him back over by the time he had to choose whether to stay or go.
This is just a bit more on-the-record backing for that scenario.

 

[bryce]

Clearly CE quit because of his objection to all the gay orgies RTD forced the cast & crew into...and the fact that RTD made him wear a dress on the set in-between takes.

It's all there, plain as day in his recent statements...I don't know how he could have been any more clear about it people!!!

(Also, Jews...CE hated all the Jews on the set, for acting openly Jewish around him...)

 

[Haggis and tatties]

You know way back in 13 century France a bigot was a very tall person with no schooling......just thought i would throw that out there.

 

[Chaos Descending]

You know way back in 13 century France a bigot was a very tall person with no schooling......just thought i would throw that out there.

You're only saying that because you're prejudiced.

 

[The]

Damn French...

 

[John Picard]

So, was CE afraid that John Barrowman would force him to commit buttsecks in the TARDIS? Is that why he quit?

 

[Haggis and tatties]

You know way back in 13 century France a bigot was a very tall person with no schooling......just thought i would throw that out there.

You're only saying that because you're prejudiced.

I can assure you i have never used one of these machines ever, i prefer to just eat the fruit whole.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Christopher Eccleston is in his private life gay and he was asked by BBC management to stay in the closet for promotional reasons.

This would be the same BBC management that has either Graham Norton or John Barrowman on nearly all their programmes?

(Dramatic licence for comic effect, but you get my drift)

 

[starsuperion]

Clearly CE quit because of his objection to all the gay orgies RTD forced the cast & crew into...and the fact that RTD made him wear a dress on the set in-between takes.

It's all there, plain as day in his recent statements...I don't know how he could have been any more clear about it people!!!

(Also, Jews...CE hated all the Jews on the set, for acting openly Jewish around him...)

You know you are right! I think I remember that CE was burning synagogues on his breaks between takes on set..phew, sure dodged a bullet with that guy..

also I think he kept a small fake square mustache in his leather jacket pocket..

 

[starsuperion]

I myself am not gay, I think that if someone were gay they can certainly exercise that right.. but were I forced to support that point of view in a job, and have that affect my beliefs, I might walk away as well..but I am no bigot..just disagree

Yep. I'm the same with red hair. I disagree with it. Yet some people just want to shove their red-hair-love down my throat! Come on, folks: red hair just happens to be an opinion I disagree with. Does that make me a bigot? I think not.

you make perfect sense with that.. hate those damn red hair pushers!! the ultimate Ginge my ass!!

 

[starsuperion]

You know, I think that if someone doesn't necessarily agree with the point of view of homosexuality, then they are instantly labeled a bigot.. is so wrong..

It's not a Point Of View, it's how you're born. Is being Black a Point Of View too?

you know there are serious debates about homosexuality, and those who believe it is how you are born, and those who believe it is a lifestyle choice.. I am not going to debate that..it is pointless, those who believe it is how you are born are never going to think outside of their point of view, and neither are those who believe it's a lifestyle choice.

so why go down that road.

and as far as being born black as a point of view.. well, maybe you should ask Eminem what he thinks about that..

you know what, and to just be fair, I think I am going to be overly heterosexual today around some people I know are openly homosexual.. and if they scoff at me and disagree with my point of view, I am going to have to label them heterophobic..

Being gay isn't a religion or a point of view. Please understand that people are born attracted to the same-sex or the opposite-sex.

Again, that is not a proven science, and it seems like some homosexual people use this as a defense to call others who do not share the same passion, and to call them a bigot or evil and unacceptable. I think this makes them hypocrites..

Case in point:

Second, please understand that just as you don't care if someone finds you liking the opposite sex is unnatural, we don't care if you find us liking the same-sex unnatural.

Yes, it is bigotry. It's bigotry when you don't like someone who is Islamic, which is a point of view. It is bigotry when you don't like someone who is exactly like you. "A dislike for the unlike", exactly as Ian Chesterton described the Daleks.

"I was born that way, all gay people are born that way! so that makes you instantly a bigot! cause you disagree, but disagree means hate.. you are a hater can't you see?"

I never said I find Gay people unnatural.. nor did I say I hated them, my comment about the heterophobe is legit.. why should I not have the same crutch to lean on as a gay person, I myself was Born Hetero.. so does that make you a bigot cause you can not accept me.. or is my way of sexual preference simply a choice as well?? see it goes both ways, is all I was trying to say..

to put words in my mouth to justify your position is unfair to me and then labels me or seeks to label me a bigot or prejudice.. when that is simply not the case.

And no, Christopher Eccleston is not a bigot.

I agree with this statement..
my simple point is that while CE may not be a homophobe, he may disagree with supporting openly gay acts on TV. He has a right as a human being to not want to play as the doctor and support that theme..just as BET has the right to not hire any white-male hosts for their network.

I know its been said its not because he was afraid of being typecast, but I honestly do feel it that was a part of it. I can't find the vid at the moment, but when he first appeared on Friday Night with Jonathon Ross way back when, Wossy was really overstating the fact that he's Doctor Who, he's playing a legend and all that bollocks, and then to top it all off brought out the first action figure of him as the Doc. I know its been a while since ive seen it, but you could see the shock in his eyes at it all and im damn sure it overwhelmed him. Like I said, it may not have been the typecasting thing, maybe it was the fact that the BBC/Producers treated him like shit and were so willing to exploit his image, but considering he announced his leaving soon after that appearance, im sure that had something to do with it.

I don't know if I can agree with that.. I mean, he had an action figure made in Gi Joe as Destro, and that movie was huge in budget and had grueling shooting schedules.. if not a bit weak on script..so it just seems like those arguements are not all there, though could be a part of the picture..I mean we are talking about a person after all, which comes with their own moods, feelings, and ideas that can not be quantified by examples or past history..much to the protest of psychologists, and psychiatrists..

some people just do things, because they want to, regardless of the consequences or past choices..

that is what makes us great and wonderful, humans aren't predictable, and can change their mind against all better track records, at a moments notice..

I think he quit cause of RTD's Breathe, which I remember reading is pretty bad.

This thread is chock full of people trying to prove their moral and intellectual superiority to the world. To accomplish this, they are throwing labels like "bigot" and "prejudice" around, as if those words alone will answer every question and justify their every word. Just remember, those that yell the loudest are the ones with the most to prove.

Meanwhile, Chris said exactly why he left. If you decide to apply your personal opinions and projections on those reasons, that's between you and your therapist.

I am humbled by your wise words of wisdom.. and I see now why your awesome avatar is the perfect choice.. The Older Doctor smoking the pipe of knowledge brings a sort of Gandalf of space and time quality to the Doctor.. and I love it! absolutely love it! there are brilliant people on this site, some I disagree with, but none that I hate..