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ChatGPT's Trek Reboot Film Proposal

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I got bored prepping for a new semester (I'm a university professor) and decided to ask the foe I've had to befriend, ChatGPT, what it thinks a Star Trek reboot movie might look like if made by the D&D writers/directors and with the few tidbits they've offered thus far.

Here we go...The Artificial Intelligence Adventure Is Just Beginning...

STAR TREK
Conjectural Story Treatment
Opening
The film begins not with a starship but with silence.

A lone automated beacon drifts through intergalactic darkness. It broadcasts a message that has repeated for centuries:

"This is the United Federation of Planets. We seek peaceful contact."
Eventually...

...someone answers.

Cut to:

The Year 3127.

Nearly a millennium after Kirk.

Several centuries after Picard.

Far beyond any previous Star Trek timeline.


A Different Federation
The Federation still exists—but barely.

It no longer dominates the Alpha Quadrant.

Instead, it resembles ancient Rome after its golden age: vast, respected, but increasingly fragmented.

Member worlds have grown culturally independent.

Some believe exploration is obsolete.

Others advocate isolation.

Starfleet has become smaller—not because of defeat, but because almost everything nearby has already been mapped.

The great age of exploration seems over.


The Surprise
The opening contact did not come from another galaxy.

It came from outside normal spacetime.

An ancient civilization has emerged from a region that the Federation believed physically impossible to enter.

Their technology dwarfs anything previously encountered.

Not because they possess bigger weapons...

...but because they perceive time differently.

To them, history is navigable.


The Crew
Rather than legendary officers, the protagonists are essentially underdogs.

Their ship is old.

Their captain has never commanded a major vessel.

Most of the crew has spent careers doing scientific surveys rather than military crises.

Like Honor Among Thieves, each member contributes a unique strength rather than simply filling familiar archetypes.

Captain
A diplomatic specialist.

Not a warrior.

Wins arguments instead of battles.


First Officer
An Andorian cultural anthropologist.

Brilliant.

Impatient.

Often hilarious.


Chief Engineer
An elderly Tellarite whose inventions work...

eventually.

He constantly modifies systems in dangerous ways.


Science Officer
An entirely new species.

Highly intelligent but emotionally expressive.

Rather than another Spock or Data, this character experiences emotions too intensely.


Security Chief
A former civilian rescue worker.

Avoids violence whenever possible.


Young Navigator
Recently graduated.

Enthusiastic.

Constantly quoting famous captains from history the way modern pilots quote Chuck Yeager.


Tone
This is perhaps where the Dungeons & Dragons influence becomes strongest.

The crew genuinely likes one another.

They tease.

They argue.

They fail.

Plans fall apart.

Improvisation saves the day more often than perfect competence.

Unlike recent Trek, failure is not portrayed as moral weakness.

It's simply part of exploration.


The Mission
Starfleet dispatches the crew because nobody else is available.

The assignment appears routine:

Determine who answered the ancient beacon.

Instead, they discover a civilization that has observed the Milky Way for millions of years.

The aliens never interfered because they believed younger civilizations needed to mature independently.

Now something has changed.

Reality itself is becoming unstable.


The Threat
The enemy is not another empire.

Nor a superweapon.

Instead...

history is unraveling.

Entire civilizations begin remembering contradictory pasts.

Stars appear where none should exist.

Species remember first contact differently.

The timeline is not changing in the familiar Star Trek sense.

Rather, multiple histories are beginning to overlap.


Character Arc
The captain gradually realizes that Starfleet's greatest strength was never technology.

It was optimism.

The Federation's confidence has slowly faded over centuries.

Exploration became bureaucracy.

Discovery became administration.

The crew rediscovers what Starfleet originally represented.


Finale
Rather than defeating an enemy in battle, the climax requires hundreds of civilizations to cooperate simultaneously.

Ships from former rivals.

Scientists.

Artists.

Diplomats.

Engineers.

Together they create a network capable of stabilizing spacetime.

The victory is collaborative rather than militaristic.


Ending
Months later...

Starfleet announces an extraordinary initiative.

Not to defend Federation space.

Not to expand it.

To leave the Milky Way entirely.

The final shot mirrors The Motion Picture in spirit.

A new generation of explorers crosses into intergalactic darkness, heading toward galaxies no human—or audience—has ever seen.

The title appears:

STAR TREK

No subtitle.

Only the promise that the voyage has truly begun again.


Why this fits the filmmakers' comments
If I were trying to reconcile the reported comments with the filmmakers' previous work, this direction would make sense for several reasons:

  • "Further in the future than we've seen." Setting the story centuries beyond Star Trek: Discovery's 32nd-century era gives the writers enormous creative freedom while preserving continuity.
  • "People will be surprised." The surprise could be less about a shocking twist and more about abandoning the familiar Kirk/Picard-era framework altogether. Rather than revisiting old conflicts, the film could imagine what exploration looks like after a thousand years of Federation history.
  • No returning legacy characters. A distant-future setting naturally allows the story to stand on its own, free from expectations about legacy cameos or inherited storylines.
  • A Honor Among Thieves-style sensibility. That film succeeded because audiences enjoyed spending time with an ensemble of flawed, likable adventurers. Translating that dynamic to Starfleet—competent but not infallible explorers solving problems together—would feel fresh while also echoing the optimistic, collaborative spirit of classic Star Trek.
Whether the actual film resembles anything like this remains to be seen, but a treatment along these lines would satisfy all of the reported comments while giving the franchise a genuinely new frontier instead of another variation on familiar eras.

Imagine if this turns out better than what we may or may not actually see.
 
Here's what ChatGPT wrote when I suggested that "further in the future" might mean the 25th century, skipping all Abrams and Kurtzman Trek.

If Paramount decided to treat Star Trek: Nemesis (2379) as the last canonical screen appearance and quietly ignore the Kelvin films and the Kurtzman era (Discovery, Picard, Strange New Worlds, etc.), then "further into the future" only needs to mean the late 25th century—perhaps 2425–2450. That gives the filmmakers roughly fifty to seventy years of narrative freedom while preserving the entire Berman-era history.


What's fascinating is that it would also allow them to soft-reboot Star Trek without contradicting the version most audiences remember.


Here's how I might approach it.




STAR TREK

Setting: 2448

Seventy years after Nemesis.


Everyone from TNG is gone.


They're legends now.


Like Archer was to Kirk.


Like Magellan is to modern sailors.


The Enterprise-D is as historically distant to this crew as HMS Endeavour is to us.




The Federation is entering its Second Golden Age

Rather than depicting decline (something modern Trek has often favored), I'd move in the opposite direction.


The Dominion War ended decades ago.


Romulus never exploded.


The Romulan Star Empire gradually liberalized after Shinzon's coup exposed internal corruption.


Cardassia rebuilt.


Klingon politics stabilized.


For the first time in centuries...


there is peace.


Not temporary peace.


Real peace.




That's the problem.

Starfleet has become comfortable.


Exploration has slowed.


Young officers increasingly see Starfleet as a scientific institution or diplomatic service.


The frontier feels finished.




Then something impossible happens.

A probe arrives.


Not from another galaxy.


Not another timeline.


Not time travel.


It originates from the far side of the Galactic Barrier.




Remember the Barrier?

One of the oldest mysteries in Star Trek.


It appeared in The Original Series but was never deeply explored.


Imagine discovering that the Barrier wasn't a natural phenomenon at all.


It was built.




Suddenly...

Everything humanity believed about the Milky Way changes.


The Federation realizes it has spent four centuries exploring what amounts to...


a nature preserve.


Beyond the Barrier lies civilization on a scale no one imagined.


Thousands of galaxies.


Ancient alliances.


Powers that regard the Borg as an unfortunate regional nuisance.




The Enterprise

The new ship is not another Enterprise-E successor.


It's the first vessel designed specifically for intergalactic exploration.


No war capability beyond defense.


Its mission is explicitly peaceful.


Its registry isn't prestigious because of its firepower.


It's prestigious because every civilization understands what it represents.




The Crew

This is where Goldstein and Daley could really shine.


Unlike many recent franchises, Honor Among Thieves isn't built around "the best."


It's built around people who become great together.


I'd mirror that.




Captain

A former first-contact specialist.


Never commanded a battleship.


Sometimes viewed as "too diplomatic."




First Officer

A Vulcan who has rejected Kolinahr.


Dryly funny.


More emotionally mature than emotionally absent.


Think less Spock.


More someone who has actually reconciled logic and feeling.




Chief Engineer

A Benzite.


Socially awkward.


Engineering genius.


Absolutely delighted by impossible problems.




Doctor

A Denobulan.


Warm.


Funny.


Treats medicine as anthropology.




Helm Officer

Young.


Idealistic.


Grew up studying Picard's logs.


Believes exploration should still matter.




The Story

The crew becomes the first Federation representatives beyond the Barrier.


Immediately...


they realize the Prime Directive has to be reconsidered.


Entire civilizations operate on scales the Federation never imagined.


Some are millions of years old.


Others communicate through mathematics rather than language.


Others experience time nonlinearly.


The Federation suddenly feels...


small.




The Twist

The Milky Way isn't famous because of humanity.


It's famous because of the Federation.


Other galaxies know about it.


Not because it conquered anyone.


Because it is almost unique.


An interspecies democracy.


Most civilizations never achieved one.


The Federation is viewed as a remarkable historical experiment.


Suddenly, Starfleet is no longer introducing itself.


It's living up to a reputation.




Central Theme

The question isn't:


"Can humanity become better?"

That question has largely been answered.


Instead:


"Can success make you complacent?"

The Federation has become comfortable.


It has begun assuming that its way is the inevitable endpoint of civilization.


The crew discovers that history is much stranger than that.




Finale

Rather than saving the galaxy...


the crew successfully negotiates admission into an organization that spans multiple galaxies.


Not because Earth is powerful.


Because the Federation still embodies curiosity.


The final scene isn't a battle.


It's a ceremony.


The Federation flag is raised alongside dozens of civilizations no audience has ever seen.


The frontier has just become infinitely larger.
 
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I got bored prepping for a new semester (I'm a university professor) and decided to ask the foe I've had to befriend, ChatGPT, what it thinks a Star Trek reboot movie might look like if made by the D&D writers/directors and with the few tidbits they've offered thus far.

Here we go...The Artificial Intelligence Adventure Is Just Beginning...



Imagine if this turns out better than what we may or may not actually see.
Don't bring this slop in here.

There are a couple of currently extant examples of (possibly) AI-written fiction causing consternation in the writing world. Those aside, this sort of composition is an area in which LLMs lag far behind human craftsmanship.

Everything said thus far here about this proposal has been too kind.
 
It's kinds bland, but there are ideas that could be starting points for real creatives. I really liked this bit:

"The captain gradually realizes that Starfleet's greatest strength was never technology.

It was optimism."

That's a detail Trek writers have been forgetting since DS9.
 
The luddites here will rant against you. Just for the mere MENTION of AI. People who grew on Trek and watching Data and the ships computer are strangely anti-AI.

I'm happy to see what AI cooks up even if it's crap, just to see what it says basically. It's certainly been trained on a lot of modern Trek... there's also a bit of a BSG twang to it.
 
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How would you like to proceed?
 
The luddites here will rant against you. Just for the mere MENTION of AI. People who grew on Trek and watching Data and the ships computer are strangely anti-AI.

I'm happy to see what AI cooks up even if it's crap, just to see what it says basically. It's certainly been trained on a lot of modern Trek... there's also a bit of a BSG twang to it.
I prefer to think I'm anti-blatant copyright infringement and environmental damage, but if you prefer to think I'm just a ranting luddite, then you do you.
 
You're posting on the internet.
That’s not quite the flex you think it is. Prior to the general access to AI, using the internet was not nearly as energy intensive as it is now (and, unlike the internet, much of the AI energy drain is on stuff not yet accessible to the public).

Now, is internet use without impact on the environment? Of course not. But it’s not nearly the simple reductionist issue you imply. It’s like admonishing the person who drives a Toyota Corolla 5,000km a year for the things for which public transit is impractical in the same way as admonishing a person with a giant, fuel guzzling pickup with the exact same use case, just because they both use roads.
 
AI can be useful for a lot of things. A more efficient spell check and replace all errors function. Bulk checking for problems. Cleaning up issues with imagery. Things can alleviate excessive work hours and crunch in many fields.

It cannot however create something from nothing, by its very nature it has to search and compile so anything it comes up with is just going to be a compilation of all that came before.

Could this be a time saver to bounce ideas off of? Maybe but it's only really reliable in the sense of saving you the time of checking dozens upon dozens of google search results.

As for AI image generation, it is flawed and likes to create the exact same face over and over again. If one looks at the DLSS Grace Ashcroft she has that generic AI model face. I don't believe it's a beauty standards thing I think it's far more egrigious it makes everyone look the same.

Now AI image generation is fine if you're just playing around and making a silly little something for yourself or personal use fanart. It's not okay for a company CEO with billions in the bank who just wants to pocket more for himself and spend less on hiring people even though he or she could live in luxury on a hundreth of what they have.

It's a tool and as with every tool it's how it's used that's good or bad not the tool itself. So it's disingenuous to say anyone is a luddite for taking a stance against whatever the hell this concept was it spewed out because the issue is the misuse that can come from it.
 
It's kinds bland, but there are ideas that could be starting points for real creatives. I really liked this bit:

"The captain gradually realizes that Starfleet's greatest strength was never technology.

It was optimism."

That's a detail Trek writers have been forgetting since DS9.
That's not story material. That's promotional cant.

The luddites here will rant against you. Just for the mere MENTION of AI. People who grew on Trek and watching Data and the ships computer are strangely anti-AI.

I'm happy to see what AI cooks up even if it's crap, just to see what it says basically.

Good for you. Still dumb slop.
 
I use GPT for grunt work (first draft footnotes and bibliography, spelling and grammar, formatting a document, etc.), to generate responses to assignments so I can check my students for over relying on it (no way they won’t use it at all unless I’m directly supervising), and for creating searchable finding tools for primary sources for research purposes. If fed specific documents, it’s quite good at this type of work (I have a paid version and always use it on its highest setting). If given a short, vague prompt and left to search online for itself, it’s far less effective. I imagine the lowest setting of the free version is worse.

It’s a tool, as stated above and elsewhere. The better the input, the better the output. No surprise there (at least there shouldn’t be). But like any tool, it has no intent other than what its user gives it.
 
I use GPT for grunt work (first draft footnotes and bibliography, spelling and grammar, formatting a document, etc.), to generate responses to assignments so I can check my students for over relying on it (no way they won’t use it at all unless I’m directly supervising), and for creating searchable finding tools for primary sources for research purposes. If fed specific documents, it’s quite good at this type of work (I have a paid version and always use it on its highest setting). If given a short, vague prompt and left to search online for itself, it’s far less effective. I imagine the lowest setting of the free version is worse.

It’s a tool, as stated above and elsewhere. The better the input, the better the output. No surprise there (at least there shouldn’t be). But like any tool, it has no intent other than what its user gives it.

I use the public-facing LLMs online for all that sort of thing, and also generative AI as entertainment - imaging (sometimes useful, but not as finished work), and, uh, music. Yeah, the stuff I prompt with Suno is pretty terrible. But I've heard some fun songs.
 
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