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Character Ratings: Lieutenant Tasha Yar
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3. Boring character and Denis Crosby is a horrible actress.
I give her a 5. Some amount of credit for her role in "Yesterday's Enterprise" is appropriate.
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1 - I've gone on record many times - Yasha Tar was a terrible character played by a poor actress. The worst part is she wouldn't go away! The only ep where her return and performance were OK was "Yesterday's Enterprise," which stands with the best Trek eps of all time, IMHO, even if Crosby is in it! 
A 3.
And personally, I think the character got the shaft from day one. If I had a character written the way it was, and I was getting movie offers, I probably would have bailed too.
I mean there's the subconscious attempt to 'sex it up' by saying she came from a colony with roving 'rape gangs', and the inference was she got caught and assaulted one or more times growing up. (Actually, the only other inference that gave that I lied was that the Federation wasn't as perfect as it seemed to become in later episodes in that they left the colony in that condition).
But, for a 'Security Officer' she was honestly ALWAYS written as somewhat incompotent in her job (very hot headed, never really able to be calm or rational in tense situations, always being corrected on tacics, and in Code of Honor openly attacking a visiting delegate. Yes, shge needed to inspect the gift, but you can't tell me that she could have done so without flip throwing the delegate.
Hell, the writers stayed true to their vision of the character when they killed her:
Yar: (To EXTREMELY powerful malevolent entuty after being warned it would kill anyone who approached); "ENOUGH! We have given you good reason. We are going to help our people" (takes 3 steps, zap...dead).
They wrote the character as soo incompompotent, I'm surprised she wasn't court martialed.
The writers put her up there as semi-butch eyecandy and nothing more. The character was an idiot 'redshirt' main character and just not worth much given the cast composition. Hell, why I saw it, my first question was:
"Why is she the security officer and the Klingon at the helm? Shouldn't that be reversed?"
And personally, I think the character got the shaft from day one. If I had a character written the way it was, and I was getting movie offers, I probably would have bailed too.
I mean there's the subconscious attempt to 'sex it up' by saying she came from a colony with roving 'rape gangs', and the inference was she got caught and assaulted one or more times growing up. (Actually, the only other inference that gave that I lied was that the Federation wasn't as perfect as it seemed to become in later episodes in that they left the colony in that condition).
But, for a 'Security Officer' she was honestly ALWAYS written as somewhat incompotent in her job (very hot headed, never really able to be calm or rational in tense situations, always being corrected on tacics, and in Code of Honor openly attacking a visiting delegate. Yes, shge needed to inspect the gift, but you can't tell me that she could have done so without flip throwing the delegate.
Hell, the writers stayed true to their vision of the character when they killed her:
Yar: (To EXTREMELY powerful malevolent entuty after being warned it would kill anyone who approached); "ENOUGH! We have given you good reason. We are going to help our people" (takes 3 steps, zap...dead).
They wrote the character as soo incompompotent, I'm surprised she wasn't court martialed.
The writers put her up there as semi-butch eyecandy and nothing more. The character was an idiot 'redshirt' main character and just not worth much given the cast composition. Hell, why I saw it, my first question was:
"Why is she the security officer and the Klingon at the helm? Shouldn't that be reversed?"
1/10.
Maybe a bit harsh, havent seen Yar's performances recently.
One good gauge of an actor's talent, is how they handle a stereotypical role. The nuance and subtlety they bring to it.
The Yar character was cringeworthy enough, without being then barbequed, by poor acting(or was Crosby a new/raw actor?).
Maybe a bit harsh, havent seen Yar's performances recently.
One good gauge of an actor's talent, is how they handle a stereotypical role. The nuance and subtlety they bring to it.
The Yar character was cringeworthy enough, without being then barbequed, by poor acting(or was Crosby a new/raw actor?).
I gave her a 6.
Granted her character wasn't well written, nor given a chance to develop an arc. Her death was meaningless and served no purpose to either the episode or to the series.
I don't think she was a terrible actress, she was OK in Pet Sematary and Deep Impact. I think alot of the actors did improve with the show, which she didn't get the benefit of.
Granted her character wasn't well written, nor given a chance to develop an arc. Her death was meaningless and served no purpose to either the episode or to the series.
I don't think she was a terrible actress, she was OK in Pet Sematary and Deep Impact. I think alot of the actors did improve with the show, which she didn't get the benefit of.
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I can't help but agree. However, she was good in Yesterday's Enterprise and slightly above average as a bad girl Romulan. I'll be generous and give her a 4.
Oh, come on.
Eeeeeevil Romulan is when the acting wheels truly fell off. Leonard Nimoy wiped the floor with her, and he wasnt even trying.
I liked her at the time, but looking back she was shit. I feel a little sorry for her as she was poorly written. However I cant go any higher than Three.
Quite sad when she died, though this was largely due to the way the other cast members played it.
And, like I said above, the exact same thing can be said about Michael Dorn in the first season! Perhaps the biggest problem for the character is that the actress lost patience and didn't wait for the same development everyone else got. She clearly had a ton of potential. As is implied by posters above, I would have loved to see her homeworld and have someone explain how the federation let it fall apart like that. She was also very passionate and firey, yet had underlying emotions of vulnerability and fear (Hide and Q) - hardly a boring person. Definite room for growth.
I found her to be a good character, a strong one,
even if she was a little overacted. I was disappointed
when I saw her leave, there are so many remours about
why she left. Some say she quit, some say she was fired.
Who really knows. I thought if she had lasted the whole seven seasons, we might have seen her character grow,
but then on the other hand, what would there be left
for Worf to do. I gave her a seven
even if she was a little overacted. I was disappointed
when I saw her leave, there are so many remours about
why she left. Some say she quit, some say she was fired.
Who really knows. I thought if she had lasted the whole seven seasons, we might have seen her character grow,
but then on the other hand, what would there be left
for Worf to do. I gave her a seven
She quit. Basically she was disatisfied in that she believed her character was going to have a larger role overall in the show, yet she was often reduced to just saying "Hailing frequencies open/closed"; and she was getting some larger film role offers at the time that she had to decline because the Producers couldn't give her any schedule consessions to do them. I think she honestly thought her 'star' was on the rise, and she could become a 'bigger' movie actress and continue to get better roles.
Of course we all know who that played out; which is why she asked to return and got the guest role on the Yesterday's Enterprise episode, and the 'Sela' parts in the Redemption and Unification two-part episodes.
I'm sure she's kicking herself now since had she stayed, she would have made a few million off of the TNG films; but you have to remember that TNG was not by any means a sure thing (Hell, most of the cast thought it would last one season at most; and had it been cancelled after Season 1, Paramount was just going to add it to their TOS syndication package).
^ Indeed. I personally kind of always liked the character, although I agree she could have been portrayed better in the early seasons (as could all of the characters then). And I can't fault Denise for choosing to leave, even though it seems in hindsight she would have been better off staying.
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