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Character Ratings: Lieutenant Tasha Yar

Noname Given said:
RustyHicks said:
Some say she quit, some say she was fired.

She quit. Basically she was disatisfied in that she believed her character was going to have a larger role overall in the show, yet she was often reduced to just saying "Hailing frequencies open/closed"; and she was getting some larger film role offers at the time that she had to decline because the Producers couldn't give her any schedule consessions to do them. I think she honestly thought her 'star' was on the rise, and she could become a 'bigger' movie actress and continue to get better roles.
Nowadays they call that the David Caruso Syndrome.
 
Jack Bauer said:
Noname Given said:
RustyHicks said:
Some say she quit, some say she was fired.

She quit. Basically she was disatisfied in that she believed her character was going to have a larger role overall in the show, yet she was often reduced to just saying "Hailing frequencies open/closed"; and she was getting some larger film role offers at the time that she had to decline because the Producers couldn't give her any schedule consessions to do them. I think she honestly thought her 'star' was on the rise, and she could become a 'bigger' movie actress and continue to get better roles.
Nowadays they call that the David Caruso Syndrome.

:guffaw: Isn't it about time he left CSI? It's a big hit, so time for him to vamoose!
 
i gave her a seven. i always liked the character and never had any problem w/ denise crosby's acting - if the character had survived & been consequently given more depth and background, i would have rated her higher. kira and (ick) janeway get a lot of ink for being strong female trek characters, but tasha was the original.

if denise crosby had just been patient enough to wait for her turn in the spotlight, the character would loom a lot larger in trek lore. AND the world would have been spared the horror that was sela.
 
euphorik said:
if denise crosby had just been patient enough to wait for her turn in the spotlight, the character would loom a lot larger in trek lore. AND the world would have been spared the horror that was sela.
Yeah, if she'd stuck to it she could've been another Gates McFadden or Jonathan Frakes.
 
Saxman1 said:
Jack Bauer said:
Noname Given said:
RustyHicks said:
Some say she quit, some say she was fired.

She quit. Basically she was disatisfied in that she believed her character was going to have a larger role overall in the show, yet she was often reduced to just saying "Hailing frequencies open/closed"; and she was getting some larger film role offers at the time that she had to decline because the Producers couldn't give her any schedule consessions to do them. I think she honestly thought her 'star' was on the rise, and she could become a 'bigger' movie actress and continue to get better roles.
Nowadays they call that the David Caruso Syndrome.

:guffaw: Isn't it about time he left CSI? It's a big hit, so time for him to vamoose!
I think Caruso pretty much realized that he fucked up by leaving NYPD Blue the way he did. Never again is his new motto.
 
She gets a nine. for her Particiaption in the "Naked Now" Episode.. EvEnthough it was a HORRIBLE Episode, its actually a popular one in my fan club back in california because she got a little with Data. :)

Denise Crosby got the same thing as Nicelle Nichols (Uhura) in the original series, her character was reduced to saying "Hailing Frequencies Open/Closed"

Nichelle Nichols was going to quit in the Original series because of that same thing. She had approached the executive producer and Gene Roddenberry directly and had given the ultimatem to give more to do or I walk.

They almost had let her go and she only stayed because she had ONE enduring and influencial fan... Dr Martin Luther King Jr. who said she was making a difference and told her not to quit.

Crosby should have done the same thing. If she was unhappy should have spoke up and said something to the Executive producers and writers. At least it would have been better to go out fighting instead of a shitty episode for her cheezy death scene with the sludge monster thing. (A cheezy one at that)
 
If Crosby had stayed, would the show have become such a hit? Crosby staying on the show would have changed the blend, the dynamic of the interplay between of the main stars/roles. The lineup is very important to hits.



I love her death scene, it is very powerful for me, even today. I love the meaningless pointlessness of her death. One of the few moments of realism. A very realistic space death, completely pointless, which alot of deaths would be.

I like the way the writers played with my expectations of a heroic death for main stars. Surely Yar couldnt die in such a manner, surely she'd be revived somehow. And then to realise..no.
Yar was actually dead, that she wont be revived by "script magic" in the final act. That her death, the death of a main character, wasnt heroic or for a noble cause. I found her death, very powerful and unsettling because of that. Very well executed.
 
jbake said:
If Crosby had stayed, would the show have become such a hit? Crosby staying on the show would have changed the blend, the dynamic of the interplay between of the main stars/roles. The lineup is very important to hits.



I love her death scene, it is very powerful for me, even today. I love the meaningless pointlessness of her death. One of the few moments of realism. A very realistic space death, completely pointless, which alot of deaths would be.

I like the way the writers played with my expectations of a heroic death for main stars. Surely Yar couldnt die in such a manner, surely she'd be revived somehow. And then to realise..no.
Yar was actually dead, that she wont be revived by "script magic" in the final act. That her death, the death of a main character, wasnt heroic or for a noble cause. I found her death, very powerful and unsettling because of that. Very well executed.

For your first comment, I don't think that's actually the case. Tasha could easily have added dimensions to the main cast. At the very least she could have at least been a second relevant female character.

As for your comments about her death - I agree completely. It was stunning to actually see a main character die like a common redshirt. Especially in 1988 before Lost and 24 made it kewl to kill people.
 
OHHH YEA... LOST and 24... LOL almost forgot about those programs. :)

I dunno there coulda been a better redshort death for Yar that that...

A red shirt in kirk's day always had gone out in style with spongie styrofoam rock that he stepped on and got blown up or being pushed of the ledge with a long AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH from ruk... (What are Little girl's Made of) Or the classic REDSHIRT Death...

Put your head up during a mortal attack and disappear in a blue flash! (only a moron would put his head up if they were shooting at them.)
 
She always was acting so manly, besides when she was in love or high, (high as in the episode where drug effects ship) She drove me crazy and I never wanted her to be there. I laughed when I saw her die. Especially when i saw how fake the blood on her cheeks was! rofl.
 
Nebusj said:
euphorik said:
if denise crosby had just been patient enough to wait for her turn in the spotlight, the character would loom a lot larger in trek lore. AND the world would have been spared the horror that was sela.
Yeah, if she'd stuck to it she could've been another Gates McFadden or Jonathan Frakes.

maybe not a frakes, but - in any case - certainly not a mulgrew or a mcneil...
 
I would've loved to have seen her character grow with the series. Look what happened with Troi. She was the least favorite, then became one of the most favorite characters.
 
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