So what? That's a good thing. SNW should not make Chapel a personality-less cardboard cutout just because TOS did.
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So what? That's a good thing. SNW should not make Chapel a personality-less cardboard cutout just because TOS did.
They could've just given us a new character!
Edit: I don't want to sound like I'm actually annoyed about what they've done with her, because I'm not.
Edit: I don't want to sound like I'm actually annoyed about what they've done with her, because I'm not.
Still not seeing why fleshing out a older character is a problem.
If you think some of Goldsman's work has been bad, then make that argument. Don't make this ridiculous "the creators of ENT whose careers consisted mostly of TNG and VOY were more experienced and accomplished than the creators of SNW in spite of their winning or being nominated for multiple prestigious awards, including an Oscar, over their respective 20-to-30-year careers spanning dozens of films and TV shows" argument.
That's not what is proving popular.
Lower Decks is full of very popular new characters.
Not like Pike was.
Even if he'd been called Captain Drake of the USS Reliant he would've been just as popular after people saw 5 minutes of Anson Mount's performance.
I doubt it.
ETA: This isn't to take away from Lower Decks but Trek has demonstrated fair enough recognition, but the larger kerfuffle is over Riker, Troi and Paris. Picard was considered OK but the episodes treated the best were again Troi and Riker, and this season has been a constant stream of "True Trek" comments. Prodigy has Janeway Chakotay.
While some people like the new characters, the demand for familiarity is much, much, higher.
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Worse than:
TOS' - And The Children Shall Lead
TNG's - Sub Rosa
DS9's - Move Along Home
VOY's - Threshold
ENT's - Terra Nova
?
The sad thing about Code of Honor is that, while it never had a chance of being a good episode, it apparently didn't have to be a racist piece of shit. There was apparently nothing in the script that dictated that the alien culture was to so poorly mimic African culture, or that the characters be portrayed by African-Americans. That was the decision of the director, who was fired by Roddenberry halfway through production.
The script I found online mentions that Lutan has "four extremely tall, elegant Black Guards", and the way Guards is capitalised makes me think it wasn't a description of their skin colour. These are the only characters described in this way. It goes on to mention that they're wearing hakama and carrying a bojutsu fighting staff, giving me the impression the writers were going for Japanese culture.
So yeah, whoever cast that episode probably deserved to be fired.
So yeah, whoever cast that episode probably deserved to be fired.
... because she wants a career of her own? Duh?
The fact that old ST shows propped up implicitly misogynistic professional disrespect for a female-dominated nursing field, is not a good reason for SNW to do the same.
What?
Why, because she gets to have a personality for more than four cumulative minutes of screentime?
I applaud the fact that they are developing the character but I thought the point of her intro episode was that she HAD a career, as a bio-medical researcher (basically biologist/chemist) which she put on hold to join Starfleet as a nurse to find Korby.
It seems that there is a bit of a retcon if she was a nurse along. Chapel's scientific credentials were ignored in TOS and she was made a nurse in NuTrek too. I am just hoping that this isn't a sign that they are going to do it again in SNW.
Old supporting character, new supporting character - who cares? The characters they're bringing forward are nearly ciphers in the original. Yeah, Uhura had two defining characteristics instead of one - wow! Well, I find that I'm more interested in seeing Uhura again than in one more Uhura clone like Hoshi.
People who want slavish point-for-point correspondence to the original will have to deal, one way or another.
People who want slavish point-for-point correspondence to the original will have to deal, one way or another.
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She's a researcher (or perhaps even a grad student with a job offer) before jointing Starfleet. They NEVER say she joined to look for Korby. Kirk can just be making small talk with her to calm her nerves during the approach to the planet. The joining to look for him bit never made much sense anyway since, A: it's been 5 years, B: this isn't the first expedition, and C: how does she even go about arranging such a thing with Starfleet?
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Good point. Remember though that TOS was wagon train to the stars. Starfleet may lack qualified staff for long term deep space missions. People still have families in 23rd century. Working your way to the frontier is not all that strange in that context. I wish they would try to recapture some of the frontier spirit that was demolished by infinite improbability spore drive.
I thought I would mention that @Maurice has opined over the years that "Wagon Train to the Stars" didn't mean "settlers traveling to the frontier in space" per se, but rather it expressed the intention that the series could tell stories involving random characters who were encountered along the way or who were aboard the train/ship all along, never seen before, never to be seen again. In his words:
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