Spoilers Centenary Special trailer

[Marc]

just had a thought.

I wonder if they'll have Teagan and Ace present when the Doctor regenerates? Teagan has seen it before but Ace hasn't.

Also I had a quote come to mind but can't remember it it was from a book, on tv or an audio or just my head as my google skills turned up zilch.

"That's the thing about regeneration, you never know what you're going to get"

 

[The Nth Doctor]

Also I had a quote come to mind but can't remember it it was from a book, on tv or an audio or just my head as my google skills turned up zilch.

"That's the thing about regeneration, you never know what you're going to get"

That's what The Fifth Doctor said in Castrovalva when he looks in the mirror.

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[Redfern]

That's what The Fifth Doctor said in Castrovalva when he looks in the mirror.

You just reminded me of a stage skit I imagined could be done for a convention. (It never developed beyond the idea stage, just to be clear.) Stage light brighten to reveal a TARDIS prop. (This can be as simple as a 2 panel dressing type blinder.) Cosplayers as a companion and the Doctor (doesn't matter which ones) approach the TARDIS, the Doctor obviously in distress and cautions he/she is about to regenerate. The Doctor ducks behind the prop out of view. Music and sound effects ensue to suggest the process. Emerging from the prop is a another fan who has been hidden all along. It's a new Doctor but he looks suspiciously like Forrest Gump! Looking at hand, or, maybe holding a mirror, he observes in that distinctively thick drawl Tom Hanks used, "Re-generation is like a box of chocolates...you never know what ya 'gonna' get!"

 

[Marc]

That's what The Fifth Doctor said in Castrovalva when he looks in the mirror.

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[Qonundrum]

Very interested to know how you whack a Dalek with a baseball bat at anything OTHER than point blank range, barring some form of gun that fires baseball bats.

Her previous bat-on-Dalek scene was at the EXACT SAME RANGE, Qonundrum....

I think you'd misinterpreted my post... or I wrote it wrong. I'll rephrase:

In "Remembrance of the Daleks" she didn't stand in front of it, where its gun was aiming at her at point blank range. She was standing at the back of it then the side then ran and ducked as it turned to fire. Quite a bit of difference. If nothing else, compare the visuals. Here's one from the old show:

https://www.blogtorwho.com/on-this-...s/remembrance-of-the-daleks-ace-baseball-bat/

Not in front of it - unlike in Chibnall's teaser there, In the teaser clip, she's standing in front of it at point blank range (read: the Dalek's perspective, since Ace isn't the only one there...)

And assuming that finale's teaser's footage is used in the actual episode. Sometimes they don't, you know... someone else posted a clip to the "Remembrance" scene, which helped illustrate the facts between the two scenes. The Dalek's gun was aiming at point blank range to Ace in the teaser. Its gun could not have been aimed at her in "Remembrance". Thank you for asking for clarification, matthunter.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

You're seriously judging Chibnall for half a second moment that you can only glimpse if you freeze frame the trailer just right?

Seriously?

Come on, man.

 

[jaime]

You're seriously judging Chibnall for half a second moment that you can only glimpse if you freeze frame the trailer just right?

Seriously?

Come on, man.

It depends. If he kills Ace off, on screen, there will be a reckoning.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

It depends. If he kills Ace off, on screen, there will be a reckoning.

That's completely irrelevant to what I just said.

 

[jaime]

That's completely irrelevant to what I just said.

She’s standing in front of a Dalek gun.
The list of writers who have killed Ace off is full of people who earned the right… if it’s screen death, I expect better. Or at the very least, get aaronovitch back.

 

[Lonemagpie]

They rarely do it, but since 2005 the middle belt section, with the gun, can rotate 360 degrees, so there *is* no "not" in front of it.

 

[jaime]

They rarely do it, but since 2005 the middle belt section, with the gun, can rotate 360 degrees, so there *is* no "not" in front of it.

I may not have been being entirely serious.
Though… if only it had been a special weapons Dalek eh? I am sure there’s a thousand essays to be written on the symbology if Ace poked her baseball bat down it’s muzzle.

(Btw, bumped into your Twitter account, has no idea I had books by you. Or if I did, I must have forgotten since. Ello. We might have both been on Jade Pagoda too.)

 

[Lonemagpie]

I may not have been being entirely serious.
Though… if only it had been a special weapons Dalek eh? I am sure there’s a thousand essays to be written on the symbology if Ace poked her baseball bat down it’s muzzle.

(Btw, bumped into your Twitter account, has no idea I had books by you. Or if I did, I must have forgotten since. Ello. We might have both been on Jade Pagoda too.)

Ooh, Jade Pagoda? That takes me way back. I mean in a "I didn't even remember there was list until you mentioned it" way, but yeah I was on that.

 

[StCoop]

According to RTD the episode is like "a 10-year-old's fantasy version of Doctor Who". I know he probably meant it as a compliment but it doesn't really sound like one.

Still, it's a step up from Sea Devils which felt like it was made by a five year old.

 

[jaime]

According to RTD the episode is like "a 10-year-old's fantasy version of Doctor Who". I know he probably meant it as a compliment but it doesn't really sound like one.

Still, it's a step up from Sea Devils which felt like it was made by a five year old.

RTD always knew to make it for kids without talking down to them or the older kids and adults in the room. (Barring one or two borderline incidents… pizzaaaa mickey springs to mind as an early one.) and Moffat aimed a little older, and only started to mess up by skewing *too* old/dark by the time Capaldi rolled around (including going too far into something from his own time under RTD) though Capaldi himself always knew precisely where to play it, and knew about the kids.
Chibnall? God knows. I think he’s aimed at people from the planet beige, and people who are watching for ideological or trend reasons. It’s not really for anyone, whilst trying to be for everyone.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Chibnall? God knows. I think he’s aimed at people from the planet beige, and people who are watching for ideological or trend reasons. It’s not really for anyone, whilst trying to be for everyone.

Chibnall's Who, to me, feels like a CW Berlantiverse series, like Supergirl. It's fine for what it is, I enjoy it, but there's a nagging sense that the actors are doing their best, are capable of giving more, and deserve better scripts. Whittaker is very good at being the Doctor, imho, but the scripts don't give her the material, and there will always be that lingering thought in the back of mind that I'd have liked to see what she was capable of with a different writer, just as I have the same thought with Smith. You can call that grading on the curve if you want.

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

Chibnall's Who, to me, feels like a CW Berlantiverse series, like Supergirl. It's fine for what it is, I enjoy it, but there's a nagging sense that the actors are doing their best, are capable of giving more, and deserve better scripts. Whittaker is very good at being the Doctor, imho, but the scripts don't give her the material, and there will always be that lingering thought in the back of mind that I'd have liked to see what she was capable of with a different writer, just as I have the same thought with Smith. You can call that grading on the curve if you want.

I dunno, I feel like this undermines Smith's phenomenal efforts as the Doctor, who singularly carried the show when it could have very easily had been sank after mega-star Tennant left. He embodied the Doctor and carried all the tricky parts that RTD introduced (LONG speeches, real fast delivery) extremely well and from the word go. Rarely he was out of step. Meanwhile, Jodie feels totally uneasy with long speeches and doesn't seem comfortably with the technobabble and struggles to take centre stage in a lot of series 11 and 12. She never inhabited, I feel, the Doctor until Flux. She totally commands the screen, and I loved her for the most part (she has her missteps in the last two episodes, but that's unavoidable).

So, I feel like it has to be stressed how Chibnall never helped Whittaker become the Doctor in the way RTD and Moffat were able with noobs like Eccleston and Smith, who knew little to nothing of the character and the show.

 

[jaime]

I dunno, I feel like this undermines Smith's phenomenal efforts as the Doctor, who singularly carried the show when it could have very easily had been sank after mega-star Tennant left. He embodied the Doctor and carried all the tricky parts that RTD introduced (LONG speeches, real fast delivery) extremely well and from the word go. Rarely he was out of step. Meanwhile, Jodie feels totally uneasy with long speeches and doesn't seem comfortably with the technobabble and struggles to take centre stage in a lot of series 11 and 12. She never inhabited, I feel, the Doctor until Flux. She totally commands the screen, and I loved her for the most part (she has her missteps in the last two episodes, but that's unavoidable).

So, I feel like it has to be stressed how Chibnall never helped Whittaker become the Doctor in the way RTD and Moffat were able with noobs like Eccleston and Smith, who knew little to nothing of the character and the show.

In a rare moment of putting a smidge of blame at Jodie’s door… didn’t Smith go and just Binge watch a ton of classic who in preparation? Ecclestone likely didn’t (and possibly didn’t need to, as he was a radically different Doctor by necessity and could lean on the writing… plus also I think he mentioned having seen the show when young, if not a ‘fans fan’ like Tennant and Capaldi.) but Jodie is the only Doctor of recent memory who I think stated they had basically never seen the show nor done much in the way of homework.
That meant it took her longer to be in a position to say ‘it would be more like the character if I did x, and less if I did y’.
Historically, other Doctors have often made that stand with the writing (Sylvester famously ditching the finger of Omega on the grounds it was the Doctor executing/shooting a sentient being in Remembrance)

 

[Emperor-Tiberius]

In a rare moment of putting a smidge of blame at Jodie’s door… didn’t Smith go and just Binge watch a ton of classic who in preparation? Ecclestone likely didn’t (and possibly didn’t need to, as he was a radically different Doctor by necessity and could lean on the writing… plus also I think he mentioned having seen the show when young, if not a ‘fans fan’ like Tennant and Capaldi.) but Jodie is the only Doctor of recent memory who I think stated they had basically never seen the show nor done much in the way of homework.
That meant it took her longer to be in a position to say ‘it would be more like the character if I did x, and less if I did y’.
Historically, other Doctors have often made that stand with the writing (Sylvester famously ditching the finger of Omega on the grounds it was the Doctor executing/shooting a sentient being in Remembrance)

I think Smith only saw Tomb of the Cybermen?

 

[Lonemagpie]

Chibnall's Who, to me, feels like a CW Berlantiverse series, like Supergirl. It's fine for what it is, I enjoy it, but there's a nagging sense that the actors are doing their best, are capable of giving more, and deserve better scripts. Whittaker is very good at being the Doctor, imho, but the scripts don't give her the material, and there will always be that lingering thought in the back of mind that I'd have liked to see what she was capable of with a different writer, just as I have the same thought with Smith. You can call that grading on the curve if you want.

The Berlantiverse? The Flash and Legends have kicked the living shit out of Chibnall era DW...

 

[jaime]

I think Smith only saw Tomb of the Cybermen?

I half remember an interview where he said something along the lines of’i went back and watched all the Doctors, but it was Troughton that really landed with me’ (you can also see when he uses elements of other Doctors in his performance — which Capaldi was also excellent at — and I know for a fact that a drama teacher he was still friends with was a fan of the series and SF in general) way back at the beginning. One of the reasons the bow tie came back I expect.