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No one has ever said to any Doctor Who writer, “Could you rewrite your script to preserve the narrative integrity of this tie-in that had a tenth of a percent of the audience the episode will?” Needing to turn every petty complaint into evidence of Chibnall’s failings doesn’t help the case against him; at this point the overnight ratings are making that case single-handedly anyway…

I half expect someone to blame the UNIT dating controversy on Chibnall's supposed need to mess up continuity. And the time when Big Finish, Death Comes to Time, the novels, and the DWM comic strips all took Ace in very different and difficult to reconcile directions. As for the ratings, the downward trend started before Chibnall arrived.
 
I half expect someone to blame the UNIT dating controversy on Chibnall's supposed need to mess up continuity. And the time when Big Finish, Death Comes to Time, the novels, and the DWM comic strips all took Ace in very different and difficult to reconcile directions. As for the ratings, the downward trend started before Chibnall arrived.
Well, he already messed up with the Doctor's origin, isn't that enough?
 
The downward trend obviously started pre-Chibnall, but “Eve of the Daleks” and “Legend of the Sea Devils” represent new lows, particularly for event episodes. Ratings aren’t a marker of quality, of course.
 
Really disagree on "Eve of the Daleks." My endearing bias for Aisling Bea aside, I thought it was an excellent time loop adventure. The only bad spot for me was "the sudden Yaz has a crush on The Doctor" thing.
 
Really disagree on "Eve of the Daleks." My endearing bias for Aisling Bea aside, I thought it was an excellent time loop adventure. The only bad spot for me was "the sudden Yaz has a crush on The Doctor" thing.
The discussion was about ratings, not quality, “Eve of the Daleks” had about 1/3 fewer viewers than the previous New Year’s specials.
 
The discussion was about ratings, not quality, “Eve of the Daleks” had about 1/3 fewer viewers than the previous New Year’s specials.
Oh, fair enough. Since I don't ever pay attention to ratings, I guess I just filtered out that part of the posts. My apologies.
 
The discussion was about ratings, not quality, “Eve of the Daleks” had about 1/3 fewer viewers than the previous New Year’s specials.

Not just lower absolutely, but relatively too

https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/most-viewed-programmes/
Doctor Who Jan 1st 2021 :: 6,364,867, 10th in the week
Doctor Who Jan 1st 2022 :: 4,400,885, 26th in the week

2021 Who was the top Drama of the week. In 2022 it only got half the viewing figures of "The Tourist", "Call the Midwife" and well behind "Arround the World in 80 days"
 
I'm sure it's still lower, but does streaming or international viewership factor in at all?
 
I'm sure it's still lower, but does streaming or international viewership factor in at all?

Streaming does count, the consolidated figures show live, timeshifted and things like iplayer, within 7 days of broadcast (including before broadcast time if available on iplayer first)

International doesn't.
 
Streaming does count, the consolidated figures show live, timeshifted and things like iplayer, within 7 days of broadcast (including before broadcast time if available on iplayer first)

BARB reports the ratings three times. Live, Live + 7 and Live +28. Doctor Who puts on about 35-40% extra viewers between the overnights and final figures but even the best result would leave Sea Devils 30% below the least watched episode of Flux.
 
While the +28 is available, it's not included in the BARB gold standard, the number that's reported is the +7 consolidated data.
 
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On the next episode of Doctor Who:
Two old ladies cosplaying as the Doctor and Captain Jack are not what they seem.
 
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On the next episode of Doctor Who:
Two old ladies cosplaying as the Doctor and Captain Jack are not what they seem.

I do t think either costume suits the character, but I do like the way Tegan’s is oddly similar to Davisons jacket in some of the cut and piping. Ace in a pin stripe suit is odd mind you… maybe they’re shocked because someone has nicked the laptop from the cooling stand in front of Ace?
 
One hopes both ladies got something of a say in their outfits. They look perfectly fine to me. It's odd to say neither suits the character given we haven't seen either character in at least 30 years. It's doubtful a woman nearly 70 would still be dressing like an air hostess or still wearing short skirts and high heels (not impossible on the second point obviously) or that a woman of almost 60 would still be dressing like a teenager.
 
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One hopes both ladies got something of a say in their outfits. They look perfectly fine to me. It's odd to say neither suits the character given we haven't seen either character in at least years. It's doubtful a woman nearly 70 would still be dressing like an air hostess or still wearing short skirts and high heels (not impossible on the second point obviously) or that a woman of almost 60 would still be dressing like a teenager.

They’ve popped some badges on the lapel, and to be honest I think it’s tied into the blu ray ad. I’m not saying Ace should still be wearing her bomber jacket and leggings combo, but am not sure she would go for the iconography of a pinstripe suit.
Tegan had a few outfits that weren’t her uniform, last we saw her she too was a bit on the punky side.
In fact… if you swapped their coats (aside from the afore mentioned 5 style coat and piping) they would suit the characters past styles better. Though Ace should really have upgraded to (most likely vegan) leather.

And nope they shouldn’t be in their same outfits, but… when you are bringing back characters, it’s good to think about reflecting the past look.
(There was no reason for Jack to keep wearing his coat ironically, when he was a regular he had different outfits suitable for where they were… it’s only after Torchwood that coat became his de facto uniform)
 
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