Not sure if he is back admitting as the video is from January 2016.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I see (L-R) Charles Root, Brandon Stacy, John Kelley, and Brian Gross. Definitely NV/P2.
Found a recent comment by Mr. Steve Fender on the old Axanar Kickstarter comments section RE: The current Indegogo campaign:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/194429923/star-trek-axanar/comments
Stephen Fender about 10 hours ago
For those interested in the Indiegogo campaign "Origins documentary perks", the interview between Alec, Rob, John, and myself about the Four Years War are a year old. They will not be "new", and to the best of my knowledge the post-production work on them should have been done months ago.
I will say that the views and opinions of this creator have changed over the course of the year, and I'm not super happy about my inclusion in the Indiegogo thing.
My bad then - to me the guy does look a lot like Vic in the photo - but I'm old an my eyesight ain't what it used to beI see (L-R) Charles Root, Brandon Stacy, John Kelley, and Brian Gross. Definitely NV/P2.
Thanks for that clarification.
Wait, what... those comments are faked by the 'campaign itself'??
Heyy, you found it. Thanks!
Following this recent campaign shows how much Alec's in trouble. Another previous friend of his (Steven Fender) has washed his hands of the whole thing and meanwhile Alec's supporters are creating fake accounts under the names of his detractors.
Surely the fact Alec's deleting other comments (such as Steven Fender's) and not those should be some cause for complaint with Indiegogo themselves over how this is being run?
Alec's next move should this campaign not even hit the 60k goal (which in itself isn't enough to keep the studio alive) should be interesting.
Surely the fact Alec's deleting other comments (such as Steven Fender's) and not those should be some cause for complaint with Indiegogo themselves over how this is being run?
Alec's next move should this campaign not even hit the 60k goal (which in itself isn't enough to keep the studio alive) should be interesting.
Or its backers. So nice that abusive comments are kept, and so are fakes where people seem to admit they've been assholes (so charming, eh?), but any respectful questions about where the money's going/has gone are scotched.
Jeepers, kids, could someone be uncomfortable with any criticism of the shell game? Or even with directing donors to actually read what the campaign owner actually wrote?
Backerkit's latest updates on the funder are not looking healthy....
https://www.backerkit.com/projects/industry-studios-the-first-fan-funded-movie-studio-film
https://www.backerkit.com/projects/industry-studios-the-first-fan-funded-movie-studio-film
I've been following it too, much to closely I'm sure, but my new work orders won't be arriving until in the next week and I've had unusual free time. So with our weather keeping me inside these last days and the campaign becoming... well I have no other word that seems to fit it.... weird.... I seem to be pulled to watch it like one might do a train wreck you just can't look away from. And I was on the campaign site when the realllly weird stuff with the supposed donors and comments were beginning tonight.
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no one was here on the Thread with whom I could type to in my attempts to unravel what I could tell was bizarrely weirder than anything I'd seen First Hand of thiswholething .... as it was happening. So I did start a post here logging each new thing as they continued to occur. And the comments were just getting too Strange Seeming to continue that post, so I just deleted it and turned to the Internet to try and find anyone else observing this bizarre behavior.
I finally located one posting alerting people these were Fake postings by those campaigning for it. Ah.
And I totally agree that IndieGoGo will not permit campaigner to write fake comments using Real Persons' Names as the authors. And feel sure it will sanction any campaign for doing such a thing when they find out their system is being abused by the campaign using it.
I do admire the commenters ccnorman, the nuGarth of Izar, and Shane Vansen in their very polite doggedness in presenting their concerns while not engaging with the bullying I'm seeing them being targeted by. I would assume they are maintaining their polite doggedness so possible donors can hear them. And while I admire I.P. Frehly's comment 'content', that ID he-or-she has chosen use for doing so would be enough for me, were I a possible donor, to judge the name and skip the comments. So I worry what he-or-she is saying will mostly hold no usefulness. Besides getting his-or-her posts deleted time and again.
This campaign is also very strange with its bully boys free to verbally attack at will.
I'm glad you showed up to talk with about it. It's wayyyyy dark:30 here and sleep had become elusive while my thoughts about its weirdness churned in my mind.
I feel easier now.
Glad you showed up, @Reilly!
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Considering their "COO" owns his own PR firm, they are certainly doing an abysmal job of controlling the message here. That Britto fellow is making them look unhinged
The one thing that's been very obvious in his interviews is how little Alec listens to his PR guy. The Trekzone interview was particularly damning with the PR guy (whose name escapes me at the moment, Mike Something?) talking about how he wouldn't have done things that Alec had done, counselling him against various others that Alec did anyway and ultimately was just out of the loop on a lot of the goings on. It made me really wonder why the heck he was involved at all.
It's staggering that post-lawsuit Alec's back to his old tricks without a care or a thought. He's genuinely learned nothing and it's staggering that even if you like the idea of Axanar or Ares Studios you can continue to support someone that treats his donors so very badly.
Alec continues to strike me, above all else, as one of those Apprentice candidates that Claude would utterly dismantle in the interviews (UK reference there).
It's staggering that post-lawsuit Alec's back to his old tricks without a care or a thought. He's genuinely learned nothing and it's staggering that even if you like the idea of Axanar or Ares Studios you can continue to support someone that treats his donors so very badly.
Alec continues to strike me, above all else, as one of those Apprentice candidates that Claude would utterly dismantle in the interviews (UK reference there).
Oh, I got caught up in it, too! Thank God,I repented!I do! And I reckon I'm not amongst like-minded individuals saying this
OW! Who threw that???
That video I posted was from after AP released his 2015 Axanar annual report defending his self-awarded 38k salary (and snottily banning the donor that asked why he paid himself a salary) shortly before the lawsuit began.
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I have and it is normlly when you have a campaign creater who is promising something he can't deliver, making baseless claims, or that has screwed people over in the past. Basically IGG campaigns that are scams.
Now that Alec has gone to deleting/ghosting comments, forcibly refunding donors who dare question him, have people with fake accounts posting as real people, and practically begging people not to ask questions in teh comments but contact him directly it is clear he is getting scared and paranoid and is not liking the numbers he is seeing.
The problem for him is that his own comments in the IGG and those of his supporters if anything are hurting his cause not helping them.
And in the things can't get any weirder area, he posted a captain's log today and stated "We are focused on Axanar" and "we spent all the money on what it was intended for" (except MAKING THE FILM) and not one word on the IGG but a comment that there will be an upcoming fundraiser for Axanar. Delusional doesn't even begin to cover it.
The problem for him is that his own comments in the IGG and those of his supporters if anything are hurting his cause not helping them.
And in the things can't get any weirder area, he posted a captain's log today and stated "We are focused on Axanar" and "we spent all the money on what it was intended for" (except MAKING THE FILM) and not one word on the IGG but a comment that there will be an upcoming fundraiser for Axanar. Delusional doesn't even begin to cover it.
You know what, I am fine if they are all "focused on Axanar". They should produce something for donors and they still can do so, even if they have to be like regular fan films and dig into their own pockets. The one way they can salvage something out of this remains "put out a good product".
As for "it was all spent on what it was intended for", I am sure he is still clinging to the asterick on the previous fundraiser that said they would spend some money on the studio, and his sidebar announcements that they were choosing to blow out their studio budget and eat into Axanar funds, to which no one [visibly in official Axanar discussion contexts] could object [and therefore it never was objected to].
As for his control of all who have any view other than his, he needs to understand that being criticized isn't the situation that every person who has ever tried to do anything faces in the world.
He brought criticism on himself by trying to turn the fan film carve out into an illegal moneymaking engine for himself on the backs of donors, and atop that, endlessly postponing fan goals (the movie itself) in favor of his goals (owning a finished studio).
Just seems weird in the middle of an IGG campaign for the studio to say they are focused on Axanar.
And in the last IGG he said they had raised money to make half the film. Still nothing. That is not using money as intended.
I do agree the only ay to salvage something is to actually make the film and make it good, but I think that because so many people have left the production that he is worried he can't make something good now.
I predict the IGG will fail and be used as an excuse to delay making the movie...again.
That will leave the last of the donors in "yea, whatever" mode.
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