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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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jespah said:
I was talking to my folks today about this (I was explaining what I've been blogging about, as they didn't really know).

And the way I put it was, there is a David/Goliath narrative going on, but if this sort of knock-off creation is allowed to continue, people are going to suffer. I don't mean Sumner Redstone or his ilk. Those folks are fine. I am talking, instead, about the layoffs that would occur if copyright was truly gutted as many of these 'fans' seem to want. These large corporations based many of their assets in intellectual property. They budget for years based on it. They hire, or expand operations, open new offices, etc., just like corporations which sell insurance or dog kibble.

Gut copyright, and the people who will suffer will be the IT department, the HR department, the security office, the custodial services, the cafeteria staff, etc. For everyone who wants to burn down copyright and suddenly take possession of Trek or any other IP because they, somehow, love it more and can do it better or any other such nonsense, that would be the results.

And further, those who want to release this IP into the public domain because, reasons, Christ on a cracker. For all the Chapter 11 they would wish to inflict on CBS and Paramount (or at least a massive retrenchment), don't think for one moment that they don't want those profits.

Hand over Trek to these over-entitled yahoos and, if they have any commercial sense at all, they will be looking to build it up to the same profitable heights - and they will be going to the mattresses to protect their interests just as much as Paramount and CBS are.

It's not about freedom.

It's about money.
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Hey, none of that talk about consequences. Obviously, if IP is made public domain and freely available then no one will ever abuse that just for the sake of money.

And this is the internet, where you can't tell if I managed to say that with a straight face or not.
 
drt said:
On that note, my understanding is that Peters fired off C&Ds, copyright infringement notices, etc. to anyone he believed was profiting off Axanar.
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Teh hypocrisy. It hurts.

No, really, it's beginning to physically manifest itself as pain now whenever I read something like that. If it was me I simply couldn't do that. Not even ironically. But I think that underlines how deeply Peters believes he's in the right which is sort of endearing this late in the game.
 
OtherGene said:
Teh hypocrisy. It hurts.

No, really, it's beginning to physically manifest itself as pain now whenever I read something like that. If it was me I simply couldn't do that. Not even ironically. But I think that underlines how deeply Peters believes he's in the right which is sort of endearing this late in the game.
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endearing like the piece of splinter the tweezers can't retrieve :vulcan:
 
muCephi said:
endearing like the piece of splinter the tweezers can't retrieve :vulcan:
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The RMS Axanar has hit an iceberg and is taking on water left, right and centre but Peters' band is playing on.

An iceberg, it should be pointed out, Peters told his band he'd had a meeting with in August last year and whilst it didn't say specifically not to hit it, it didn't say he couldn't either, he argued afterwards.
 
Jedi_Master said:
Alec wouldn't have thrown the Heart of the Ocean into the Atlantic - but he would have kicked nuRose off the piece of wreckage.
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Alec would've DEFINITELY tried to auction that sucker off............and upon proposing such a thing, yeah, Rose or nuRose would've certainly let him drown......
 
Jedi_Master said:
I think our Titanic jokes have just about run aground...time to put them on ice.
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After all the SD Comic Con hijicks Alec and Co. put on, I'm surprised we haven't seen another 'Downfall' Hiitler video parody yet. ;)
 
drt said:
On that note, my understanding is that Peters fired off C&Ds, copyright infringement notices, etc. to anyone he believed was profiting off Axanar.
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Axamonitor has an interesting article about Alec pulling a "copyright violation" threat over some crappy 2 minute video he released. The ironic hypocrisy ... d'oh.

Axanar Trailer Removed After Criticism
http://axamonitor.com/doku.php?id=axanar_trailer
"After it was screened on June 18, 2016, in Denver, the trailer was posted for 18 hours on the private Facebook page set up exclusively for people who donated to Axanar in its Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaigns.

From there, the trailer was leaked to YouTube and Facebook, with Axanar Productions filing repeated takedown notices with YouTube, ironically claiming the leak constituted a copyright violation."
 
Red Shirt said:
Axamonitor has an interesting article about Alec pulling a "copyright violation" threat over some crappy 2 minute video he released. The ironic hypocrisy ... d'oh.

Axanar Trailer Removed After Criticism
http://axamonitor.com/doku.php?id=axanar_trailer
"After it was screened on June 18, 2016, in Denver, the trailer was posted for 18 hours on the private Facebook page set up exclusively for people who donated to Axanar in its Kickstarter and Indiegogo campaigns.

From there, the trailer was leaked to YouTube and Facebook, with Axanar Productions filing repeated takedown notices with YouTube, ironically claiming the leak constituted a copyright violation."
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1. a false DMCA claim can be pursued by the victim and carries the same weight as an act of perjury in court, if meant to harass, or it doesn't state a real claim: http://www.newmediarights.org/busin...penalties_false_copyright_infringement_claims

2. penalty for perjury in California is up to 4 years and the other sides' attorney costs: http://www.shouselaw.com/perjury.html

Takeaway: would you like to be fried with that could be on Alec's menu.
 
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Going back to the recent Reason puff piece in support of Axanar, I think there's a danger here that if this case makes its way up to the appellate level, we will potentially see multiple "friend of the court" briefs filed by libertarian and anti-IP groups who smell an opportunity to score some points with their own donor bases. (I say this as someone who used to draft such briefs for these groups.) While I doubt such briefs would actually bolster Axanar's legal position, it would provide additional PR cover for them to continue their "scorched Qo'nos" strategy.
 
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