CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Richard Baker, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. urbandefault

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    Because Vic told CBS that after the last crowdfunding thing he wouldn't ask for more money. Then he produced the episodes he promised. He has a good relationship with CBS, and never trash-talks them. He has demonstrated that what STC did was never for profit, something that Axahat-in-Chief spouted but actions decried.

    But if one's head was buried in the sand, one may have missed the finer points of the debacle. :techman:
     
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  2. carlosp

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    1. Peters doesn't have the money to produce the feature script, and the settlement prevents him from raising that money publicly, such as by crowdfunding.
    2. The settlement specifies no more than two 15-episodes of Axanar can ever be produced. Two. That's it. No 15-minute pieces that add up to a feature-length story.
    3. Vic Mignogna is not a party to the suit. Peters is. And the settlement is what places the constraints on Peters, not the guidelines (although, to a large extent, the guidelines are incorporated as rules within the settlement that Peters must follow).
    4. You don't "break" guidelines; you merely don't follow them. CBS has specified the guidelines are just that; they are not rules. Consequently, CBS can choose to enforce or not enforce them as it sees fit. If a fan producer chooses to not abide by the guidelines they are legally exposing themselves but some kind of legal action does not ipso facto have to be taken.
     
  3. Sgt_G

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    In other words, Mr. Peters wanted CBS to issues "rules", and they did. Just for him. Via the court system.

    Everyone else got "guidelines." :beer:

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  4. USS Intrepid

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    This is exactly what I’ve been trying to tell people for months, but they will not listen. I’m really getting tired of the message falling on deaf ears.
     
  5. Jedi_Master

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    I think the ears in question are deliberately closed.
     
  6. KennyB

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    02DE44C4-1DA2-42A8-9102-8511E4BB51A0.jpeg Alec making promises again......sigh.
     
  7. urbandefault

    urbandefault Commodore Commodore

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    Quote of the Day: "Never let a promise go unbroken." - Alec Peters

    :techman:
     
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  8. tharpdevenport

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    Aaaaahhhhh ... where are the old episodes?
     
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  9. Noname Given

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    Lol -
    Alec Peters: "Okay, so we can't do Axanar the way I want to on film and sell it; and a filmed documentary is out of the question too because of the setlement, but the settlement doesn't cov er a Book; and I doubt CBS will take me back to court for a "Making of Axanar" book, and my sychophants will buy it up and love it!"
     
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  10. KennyB

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    Buy the book. Daddy needs some walkin around money. #suckers
     
  11. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    You mean "Axanar Parts I & II"? Yeah, wondering that myself...
     
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  12. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Well, you know, Lucas did come out with Episode Four over two decades before Episode One, so why can't Mr. Peters do the same thing??
     
  13. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Probably because George Lucas actually did something. :D
     
  14. tharpdevenport

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    Isn't it worse, when you think about it? As I recall, where it stood was:

    He got a ton of money -- way more than he needed -- to fund a film which he said would give Trek fans what they really wanted.

    Then he produced a short or two to promote it.

    So, in reality, there has never been a single episode, so there factually cannot be "new" ones. Are Axanads still falling for this crap???
     
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  15. Reilly

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    Reading Carlos’ great round up of the year I’m struck how even with all the craziness I’d still managed to miss some things. I hadn’t realised the Trekyards guys had backed away, which seemed out of the blue as they were always big supporters.

    Even better I’d missed Alec’s potshots about RMB owing him money. There really doesn’t seem to be such a thing as a graceful exit from this “project”.
     
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  16. urbandefault

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    One constant with AP: It's always someone else's fault.
     
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  17. Professor Zoom

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    How can you have a "definitive" book on the making of something that was never made? How does that work and where can I create the Kickstarter for it?
     
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  18. 137th Gebirg

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    Shhhhhh! Don’t confuse the issue with facts.
     
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  19. Harvey

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    Is everyone's favorite Saturn award winner still writing that?

    (I'm pretending this will come to fruition for the sake of this post).
     
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  20. Harvey

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    An actual journalist could write something pretty interesting out of this whole unmade mess of a fan film.

    That won't happen with Alec's cooperation, obviously.
     
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