CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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  1. Noname Given

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    You'd have to go to a Convention table run by Axanar Supporters and pay money for those. ;)
     
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  2. JD

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    Money that definitely won't go back to Alec Peters. :shifty: Definitely.
     
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  3. mos6507

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    He already did. He posted some drama about Axanar there, because everyone knows that a Facebook group about Orville is really all about Alec Peters just because he's running it.
     
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    Oofa.

    Making the Orville Great Again.

    Sorry, Mr. MacFarlane.
     
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    This week I downloaded the ISO files from Star Trek Continues and burned my own full-series DVD set, complete with special features, art, etc., at no charge to me whatsoever.

    I never even donated when they were in production, and they have never asked anything of me except that I enjoy the show.

    They spent a fraction of what went down the Axahole and actually did what they said they would do (and more). That's gotta really chap AP's ass. :techman:
     
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    All the "NOOO!"
     
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  7. carlosp

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    Two years after the copyright infringement lawsuit against Axanar was filed by CBS/Paramount, over yonder at AxaMonitor, we feature the Top 10 Axanar Stories of 2017.

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  8. feek61

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    I certainly hope so!
     
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    I laughed, I cried (no, I didn't cry), I was wishing for Casey Kasem to do the countdown.
     
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    You could still get Letterman to do it, probably. ;)
     
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    Alex is more like Fruitcake then jams or Jellies, the same fruitcake that gets passed from family member to family member each year, no one wants to eat it, it looks okay, but folks know it wasn't made with the best stuff, it was bought cheaply at WalMart, yet every year someone new receives it for Christmas, it's starting to get a bit rank / ripe (depending on how one looks at these things) and is starting to show signs that it was made quickly & cheaply... (only a few more pages 'till 1701, we can do it !)
     
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    Even though I've read every page of this thread over the last two years, I don't know if this has been mentioned. While perusing Facebook this morning, in the "Recommended for you" blurb there was a page called The Real Truth About Axanar.

    I couldn't help but take a look, and I literally laughed my ass off. I'm still picking it up off the carpet. :guffaw:
     
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  14. urbandefault

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    :guffaw:
     
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    Here's something I don't understand, how come Alec Peters can't make the full fledged feature and then simply edit the film to 15 min pieces but give their investors the full 2 hour film? Vic Mignogna has broke the guidelines repeatedly so I can't see why Alec can't.
     
  17. Noname Given

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    because Alec Peters has an agreed to Court settlement - and if he violates said settlement he probably incurs A LOT of financial damages being paid to CBS/Paramount.

    Vic and the STC crew were never formerly sued - nor did they even put forth the argument in a court of law that neither CBS/Paramount properly held copyrights to the Star Trek franchise; and even if they did, elements of Star Trek are uncopyrightable and 'Star Trek' itself therefore falls into the Public Domain.
    ^^^
    These were the main arguments Axanar Productions tried to push in the civil court case. So yeah, I can see the (which Alec Peters admitted as part of the Settlement) Star Trek IP owners not having any sort of leniency towards either Alec Peters or Axanar Productions.
     
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  18. urbandefault

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    Because Vic told CBS that after the last crowdfunding thing he wouldn't ask for more money. Then he produced the episodes he promised. He has a good relationship with CBS, and never trash-talks them. He has demonstrated that what STC did was never for profit, something that Axahat-in-Chief spouted but actions decried.

    But if one's head was buried in the sand, one may have missed the finer points of the debacle. :techman:
     
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  19. carlosp

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    1. Peters doesn't have the money to produce the feature script, and the settlement prevents him from raising that money publicly, such as by crowdfunding.
    2. The settlement specifies no more than two 15-episodes of Axanar can ever be produced. Two. That's it. No 15-minute pieces that add up to a feature-length story.
    3. Vic Mignogna is not a party to the suit. Peters is. And the settlement is what places the constraints on Peters, not the guidelines (although, to a large extent, the guidelines are incorporated as rules within the settlement that Peters must follow).
    4. You don't "break" guidelines; you merely don't follow them. CBS has specified the guidelines are just that; they are not rules. Consequently, CBS can choose to enforce or not enforce them as it sees fit. If a fan producer chooses to not abide by the guidelines they are legally exposing themselves but some kind of legal action does not ipso facto have to be taken.
     
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    In other words, Mr. Peters wanted CBS to issues "rules", and they did. Just for him. Via the court system.

    Everyone else got "guidelines." :beer:

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