What would be the best way to officially bring all of Peter's violations of the settlement to CBS's attention? Just on off chance that he's managed to keep all of this off of their radar.
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What would be the best way to officially bring all of Peter's violations of the settlement to CBS's attention? Just on off chance that he's managed to keep all of this off of their radar.
I doubt it's off their radar. Even Peter's claims he's gotten letters from CBS lawyers alleging breach of settlement in the past, and in the end nothing's happened.
What would be the best way to officially bring all of Peter's violations of the settlement to CBS's attention? Just on off chance that he's managed to keep all of this off of their radar.
The issue is; Before Star Trek Discovery launched on the CBSAA streaming service, the suits were very concerned about how the public would react. They had a lot of money involved, and didn't want to take any chances; so with Peter's out there in 2015 Riding high off of a positive response to "Prelude To Axanar" and having raised $1.2 million at the time and rising; and Peter's at that time having some industry professionals, and stating you can do it faster better and cheaper...
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CBS saw that, and figured they had to do something before what Peters was doing had a negative effect on their upcoming launch of a new Star Trek series on their new and largely unknown/untested streaming service business model.
CBS launched the lawsuit and got a settlement that they were happy with. In the four years since the settlement:
Star Trek Discovery has launched on CBSAA, and been a big success for them. They've also now launched two more series, both of which were also successful; and they're about to launch another animated series on Nickelodeon; are producing more seasons of their existing series; and they have two more Star Trek series in various stages of pre-production.
At this point they know Star Trek is a successful franchise on their streaming service, and nothing that Peter's has done since has impacted their business model negatively in any major way.
So yeah they are probably aware he's still using the Star Trek IP to get money, but the amount of money he's getting is negligible, compared to how much he was getting before; and what he's doing is having no real negative effect on how CBS is now doing business with the Star Trek franchise.
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Until that changes, and CBS starts to see a big negative impact on its Star Trek business model from Alec Peter's actions with Axanar, CBS will continue to look the other way.
I'm not a lawyer and never played one on TV.
My understanding is, the money amount has little to do with it. It's more about protecting the franchise. Once you turn your back on one person profiting a mere million on your IP you open the floodgate to people that actually know how to make many times more than Alec ever thought of.
From Jenkins’ perspective, nothing has to happen between CBS and Axanar regarding the settlement; it’s immaterial to his counterclaim against Peters’ defamation suit.
What is important are the simple facts that his actions versus the settlement terms demonstrate that he doesn’t respect legal agreements, and that he lied to Jenkins about the propriety of his actions. A jury doesn’t need to know what action CBS took or didn’t take to be able to come to those conclusions. Jenkins’ counterclaim states that Peters’ misrepresentation of what the settlement allowed convinced Jenkins to pass up actual paying work only to learn he was donating time and effort to a project constantly running afoul of this legal agreement; he would never have signed up had he known Peter was lying about the settlement. Hence Jenkins’ claim for damages.
I’ve never been a fan of slippery slope arguments, particularly since they usually reflect logical fallacies, and are typically devoid of actual evidence.
You don’t offer evidence that Cause A must result in Effect B. CBS already took action against Peters. They appear to have decided that despite his constant breaches of the settlement, he’s not worth spending more money on legal expenses since it’s pretty clear that he’s perfectly capable of bringing Axanar down all by himself. He will never earn a million dollars again on the back Trek IP.
Does CBS not bringing a hammer down on him mean they’ve tacitly allowed everyone else to do what Peters did? Nope. Copyright, unlike trademark, doesn’t require constant enforcement in order to preserve your IP rights. They can choose to go after whomever they want. Any fan film producer who thinks they can get away with what he did could wind up in real trouble. And so long as you don’t know who, how and when CBS will take action, you’re imperiling yourself even more.
Yeah, it is not like this is a cancer cure or justice for Darfur or how to terraform Mars. It's a f'ing fan film.
The settlement thing really isn't that big of a deal. Why would CBS spend money to go after a guy that holds a tin cup out just to pay his monthly bills now? They broke his knee caps with the original suit. If they did go after him he would become even more of a martyr to the dipshits that worship him and they wouldn't get anything because he would hide his assets again and declare bankruptcy AGAIN. So as long as he's not banking money like he was before it doesn't make sense to spend the money on him. I don't think his pins and patches are hurting the business of anyone either. If you are buy crap from the Axanar store you are in a small corner of fandom.
And you wonder why nobody who knows how to make a film will work with him.
Readding through the answer it is clear Jenkins wanted to get the movie made for the fans but Alec was basically a jerk...again... and ran him off and working with META was likely his best option to actually get the film done. The "unprofessional" letter from Jenkins to Peters that then caused Peters to "fire" him is a nice summation of everything that has gone wrong through this entire project. Well worth a read.
I guess Alec Peters is as good of a "Producer in Training" as he is a "Lawyer in Training".This is worth posting. Axanar in a nutshell.
Did I miss something scary, or was that the bit about someone going to someones front door and kicking them in the nuts?
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That seems awfully... what's the word... criminal?
Like that shit opens up a whole can of worms.
Yeah it really does.
and all over a freaking fan film. Let's not forget that. They are talking about hitmen over a fan film.
My understanding is there is more information from this trollhunters group beig reviewed so likely more to be released in the future.
Hang on... going to be a ride.
The problem is - it's NOT just "over a fanfilm" per se. Anyone who thinks all the grift Alec Peters CONSTANTLY engages in isn't his prime source of income/how he makes his 'living' is just fooling themselves.
Alec Peters is DEATHLY AFRAID that one day, all this prop auctioning, illegal merchandising, and crowdfunding will not only come to an end; but he is afraid if enough gets shown in court; one day State or Federal authorities will come to arrest him, and book him of fraud/embezzlement charges and he'll one day be sitting in a cell; or absolutely bankrupt and on the street with no way to continue grifting in the manner he has now for over a decade. <--- This is Alec Peters personal 'livelihood' as he sees it.
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Hells bells, missed those ones! Admittedly, the cut and paste presentation of those messages was getting annoying to read, must be why I missed those!
If anyone needs reporting, it's people making comments like that, threats against someone who was just calling out the shenanigans surrounding an amateur fan film!