Why don't you want to answer the question?And we're done.
Why don't you want to answer the question?And we're done.
Why don't you want to answer the question?
And anyone who missed it has to see it on All Access. Not that it matters, because pilots are not always as good as their respective shows, and people can always change their minds about seeing the show later based on word of mouth. Besides, if someone called the show crap based on the first episode, supporters of the show would just turn around and say "But you only saw one episode!". (Hell, some people have a three-episode rule for deciding if a series is bad or not.)1. The pilot premiered on CBS for... *checks* ... free.
That's probably what I will do. (But I'll probably wait until I can binge all of season two in one go.)2. You could always get CBS All Access for a month and try it, binge the entire first season for 10 bucks.
People don't have to stop paying either. They can hate a show passionately, and if they so desire, keep watching it at the same time.Don’t like it, you don’t have to keep paying.
This is a (possibly accidental) straw man. My point was never that people should get Discovery for free. (In fact, the word "free" doesn't appear in my previous two posts.) My point was that paying customers are entitled to their feelings and opinions. Their choice to pay for content or not has no bearing on their free speech rights, and they are not obliged to stop watching something even if they hate it. You have no right to tell people not to comment on a show they've seen under any circumstances.Honestly, I don’t see the problem, except someone wanting free content.
Ratings aren't really a form of communications. They're a metric. They don't tell people anything about WHY the show is poorly rated. That feedback comes from actual reviews, criticism, and market research.Low ratings might make changes?
Actually, it's one WEEK now, and you can most certainly have difficulty watching an entire season of a show in that time span.Well, thankfully, you can have one month free![]()
Point #1 is debatable, as stated above. It's also irrelevant, because people are not obliged to like something, or remain silent about it, just because they obtained it legally for free. Even if they outright pirated the show, it would be the piracy that would be wrong, not their having an opinion on the show.But, that's not what that's trying to do. It's noting that if people don't want to pay for it 1) there are legitimate ways to watch it without (as Professor Zoom noted) and 2) it is hard for me to take criticism of a platform seriously or a show if individuals have not seen it.
Yes, the "free content part" that you and Zoom brought up all on your own. I never stated or implied that people are entitled to free content. People are entitled to express whether said content was worth the money they spent after the fact.It's the free content part that makes people upset.
Good pointTo be fair, it is more than a little off topic.
*recognizing I'm guilty of it as well, but, trying to be better...*
That's actually not a deviation from what has been the narrative since the rather thin, so-called independent "financial report" was released two years ago. Of note is that — for once — he claims he put in less of his own money ($100,000) than he generally claims (about $50,000 more than that). If you've never read our kids' book version of the Axanar financials, check it out, "Think of the Children."
To be fair, this *is* TNZ and it's kind of quiet on the Axanar front.Yes, WAY off topic, boring and irksome to people who are here for the TOPIC OF THE THREAD! I asked before to take this discussion which has nothing to do with Axanar; someplace else.
Um... NOPE!To be fair, this *is* TNZ
. . . and yet it continues!!!And anyone who missed it has to see it on All Access. Not that it matters, because pilots are not always as good as their respective shows, and people can always change their minds about seeing the show later based on word of mouth. Besides, if someone called the show crap based on the first episode, supporters of the show would just turn around and say "But you only saw one episode!". (Hell, some people have a three-episode rule for deciding if a series is bad or not.)
That's probably what I will do. (But I'll probably wait until I can binge all of season two in one go.)
People don't have to stop paying either. They can hate a show passionately, and if they so desire, keep watching it at the same time.
This is a (possibly accidental) straw man. My point was never that people should get Discovery for free. (In fact, the word "free" doesn't appear in my previous two posts.) My point was that paying customers are entitled to their feelings and opinions. Their choice to pay for content or not has no bearing on their free speech rights, and they are not obliged to stop watching something even if they hate it. You have no right to tell people not to comment on a show they've seen under any circumstances.
Ratings aren't really a form of communications. They're a metric. They don't tell people anything about WHY the show is poorly rated. That feedback comes from actual reviews, criticism, and market research.
Actually, it's one WEEK now, and you can most certainly have difficulty watching an entire season of a show in that time span.
Point #1 is debatable, as stated above. It's also irrelevant, because people are not obliged to like something, or remain silent about it, just because they obtained it legally for free. Even if they outright pirated the show, it would be the piracy that would be wrong, not their having an opinion on the show.
As for point #2, though I tend to agree with you on the matter, it's a non sequitur that ignores the context of my posts. I never stated or implied that people are entitled to uninformed opinions about TV shows they've never seen.
Yes, the "free content part" that you and Zoom brought up all on your own. I never stated or implied that people are entitled to free content. People are entitled to express whether said content was worth the money they spent after the fact.
Good point
I can? Haven't yet...Actually, it's one WEEK now, and you can most certainly have difficulty watching an entire season of a show in that time span.
It was a rather broad observation on the whole matter, and not just commenting on your post as a whole. I never stated or implied that you stated or implied such.As for point #2, though I tend to agree with you on the matter, it's a non sequitur that ignores the context of my posts. I never stated or implied that people are entitled to uninformed opinions about TV shows they've never seen.
Certainly. Nothing was stated or implied on my part that you stated such. Again, this is an assumption that my comments are limited to that of your post.Yes, the "free content part" that you and Zoom brought up all on your own. I never stated or implied that people are entitled to free content. People are entitled to express whether said content was worth the money they spent after the fact.
Plenty of people have busy schedules. Don't pretend you don't understand that, or for that matter the fact that "you" can be plural.I can? Haven't yet...![]()
The implication is derived from the format. Text is quoted, then a response follows underneath, implying the text is in response to the quotation. It should not surprise you that ignoring this practice causes confusion.It was a rather broad observation on the whole matter, and not just commenting on your post as a whole. I never stated or implied that you stated or implied such.
There's nothing in your comment to lead anyone to conclude otherwise, as they are formatted as replies to either my text or Professor Zoom's, who's quoted comments are in turn formatted as replies to my text. You made no effort to establish a different context.Certainly. Nothing was stated or implied on my part that you stated such. Again, this is an assumption that my comments are limited to that of your post.
I'm not the one who chose to deviate from the topic in the first place. I'm simply responding to what I feel are mischaracterization and illogical arguments directed at my posts. If my replies have deviated from the topic, it's because the underlying arguments I'm replying to are off topic.And back to Axanar...
A message dedicated exclusively to griping about off topic messages is equally off topic.Missed by some.
Well, I'm pretty sure Alec can't legally file for copyright on an unlicensed derivative work, so they could certainly do that. Hell, they could even cast an AP look-alike as the captain, just to rub it in.It would be the funniest thing ever if CBS did a Short Treks about Axanar
Then how about taking it to PM instead of derailing this thread?Plenty of people have busy schedules. Don't pretend you don't understand that, or for that matter the fact that "you" can be plural.
The implication is derived from the format. Text is quoted, then a response follows underneath, implying the text is in response to the quotation. It should not surprise you that ignoring this practice causes confusion.
There's nothing in your comment to lead anyone to conclude otherwise, as they are formatted as replies to either my text or Professor Zoom's, who's quoted comments are in turn formatted as replies to my text. You made no effort to establish a different context.
I'm not the one who chose to deviate from the topic in the first place. I'm simply responding to what I feel are mischaracterization and illogical arguments directed at my posts. If my replies have deviated from the topic, it's because the underlying arguments I'm replying to are off topic.
A message dedicated exclusively to griping about off topic messages is equally off topic.
Well, I'm pretty sure Alec can't legally file for copyright on an unlicensed derivative work, so they could certainly do that. Hell, they could even cast an AP look-alike as the captain, just to rub it in.
No, it's not.To be fair, this *is* TNZ ....
It's not??No, it's not.
^^^To be fair, this *is* TNZ and it's kind of quiet on the Axanar front.
On that note, I've been taking the opportunity to post slightly sarcastic comments on the new Patreon posts; for example; asking when AP will make a Discovery fan-film.
the PR guy quit, but worry not, they now have a stoggy. i'm not sure what that is though, something about trucks and sucking or something like that. maybe somebody else can explain.So what is new in Axaland, aside from needing yet more money to not make a movie?
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