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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

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stumbled accross something today....

So the donors spent $500K or so plus rent to retrofit a warehouse into a non-soundproof studio. When Alec left he supposedly left all the equipment and stuff behind for the owner.. you know all the stuff the donors paid for.

and what is all that donor investment going for today?

Nothing. The space is now the HQ for a motorcycle gear company and all that donor money spent retrofitting the warehouse amounts to nothing,
Yep - it's now a clothing store :rommie::
https://local.yahoo.com/info-201562421-fasthouse-valencia
 
They actually did a nice job with the place.
yeah, they just had to fix a wall that some idiot environmentalist that was in there before had painted (RIP earth's largest green screen).
also i'm sure they wondered what all the plywood with those holes in it was good for and why you would need a transporter room when you can simply use the existing loading bay or parking lot for your van.
 
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Alec cannot crowd fund.... take private donations, yes, but not crowd fund.

never tell alec what he can or cannot do :cool::

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I have to wonder exactly how Alec is going to play this. On one hand, he’s saying he’s going to flake on his legal agreement with CBS, in which case I’d hope they squash him, otherwise they end up looking toothless.

On the other I imagine it’ll end up like the Industry Studios Indiegogo, where he runs a campaign that’s totally not at all for Axanar, but really we all know that’s where donors will *think* the money’s going. That way he’s staying true to the word of the agreement, if not the spirit.

Of course in that instance, he can raise the money, not spend it on the money and actually be fullfilling the terms of the fundraising. So that’s something.
 
" ... another round of Kickstarter/crowdsourced funding for Axanar fans?"
well there really is only one, right. at this point i won't even try to predict what's gonna happen. no, fuck that, here's what's going to go down. it's either:

- lane-campain to pay the rent for the axanararesvalkyrieindustryrocketworxowcstudiowarehousesoundstage
- failed campain
- then nobody says anything for 3-6 months
- image repair campaign and probably studio move
- repeat.

or:
- straight up campaign
- CBS steps in and finally there's a sorry, can't complete project
- the end

what do your crystal balls say?
 
They actually did a nice job with the place.

http://thefasthouse.com/the-scene/a...open-house-cold-brews-hot-dogs-and-good-times

The sad thing is the amount of donor money that is just... gone now with nothing to show for it.
I was just thinking, they should have found some way to get some of the money from the sale back to the crowdfunding backers. It's kind of shitty that they got all that money for the place, and then went and sold it off.
never tell alec what he can or cannot do :cool::

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Unbelievable. I wonder how he's going to get around the deal with CBS? Find some kind of phrasing that keeps them just barely on the right side of it, or just play it straight and hope CBS let's it slide?
 
I was just thinking, they should have found some way to get some of the money from the sale back to the crowdfunding backers. It's kind of shitty that they got all that money for the place, and then went and sold it off.?

What sale?

The studio was owned by a landlord. Alec has a lease. He negotiated to get out of lease early and property went back to landlord and is now being leased to somebody else.

Whatever Alec left behind the landlord is free to do with as he pleases.
 
- lane-campain to pay the rent for the axanararesvalkyrieindustryrocketworxowcstudiowarehousesoundstage
- failed campain
- then nobody says anything for 3-6 months
- image repair campaign and probably studio move
- repeat.
This. Because it keeps the dream alive.

Alec doesn't want to give up or make the movie, because then the adulation (and criticism) will come to an end.
 
What sale?

The studio was owned by a landlord. Alec has a lease. He negotiated to get out of lease early and property went back to landlord and is now being leased to somebody else.

Whatever Alec left behind the landlord is free to do with as he pleases.
I thought he owned the building. I thought that was all of big kickstarter was for, so he could buy the studio.
 
I thought he owned the building. I thought that was all of big kickstarter was for, so he could buy the studio.
you'd think that, but it was a lease of a warehouse, which he wanted to sink $1m plus into to convert into a soundstage.
 
I wonder if he bothered getting city permits, let alone permission from the landlord, to make all those "improvements" to the building. I mean, like the overhead light system they hung from the ceiling. California has strict regulations and inspections for things like that, being it's an earthquake zone.
 
I thought he owned the building. I thought that was all of big kickstarter was for, so he could buy the studio.

There wasn't enough money fro that. When the property sold in 2008, it was around 2.2M. He had a 3 year lease IIRC.

So even if all of Alec's grandiose plans had worked and he spent $1M+ to change a warehouse into a soundstage and it had worked and big productions were lining up to use the space, his landlord could have said "thanks for all the improvements to the property. I'm not renewing your lease".

When he vacated he had around 8 months left on the lease so there is no guarantee he'd still be in that property today.

Would he have? I don't know. But a sane person doesn't put himself in that situation. To justify the $1M or so in improvements he would need to at least make that much back in profit BEFORE the end of the lease.

Reminds me an episode of hotel impossible I saw not too long ago where the owner of the hotel didn't own the land it was on and had something like a 15 year lease on the land. Hotel needed a lot of work and they were having to crunch the numbers to see if it even made sense running calculations like "If you put $5M in renovations into the hotel, you;d need to increase revenue by this much every year just to beak even over that 15 year time span and then determine if that is realistic or not". That is how those kind of things are done in the real world.
 
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