Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.
If I may draw your attention to the link below?
You might find something pretty interesting, that's out in the open right now.
I'd guess, that keeps the discussion more than alive for the next weeks. I, at least, have had an entertaining weekend,
The best only thing about fan films is making them. Writing a plot and seeing it come to life while helping others also bring their dream to life.
It's the AWE in awesome, folks adding their thoughts and skills from different points on the map to one goal.... collecting a couple million and getting sued along the way. That's entertainment!
I'm betting that shell company is how he's been able to keep himself afloat all this time. Would be interesting to see a more detailed look of his financials and find out whether or not any of the initial kickstarter money ended up in there or not.
As far as the rest of that CF goes, I haven't read a whole lot of it, but what I have seems be to standard Alec for ya - his narcissism hasn't abated one iota.
I know it’s early but places will soon get booked up so….shall we start making plans to celebrate the 10 year anniversary?
Holy shit, has it been going on that long?
I stumbled into one of the Facebook pages yesterday for the first time in 5 years or so and there is still daily drama over this grift.
I received an email from Ares Studios on Sunday. According to it, "CBS has made a concerted effort to target Ares Studios, claiming that it is part of Axanar and trying to scuttle the fundraising efforts that pay the monthly rent." As a result, Ares Studios is installing a new management structure and removing Alec and Crysstal from any involvement with the studio. "It will just insulate the studio from unscrupulous individuals who have a vendetta against Axanar."
The changes are as follows:
(1) New team for oversight.
(2) A new president for the Studios. The person is unnamed, but will be announced shortly. The announcement says it is a space veteran with experience raising money for 591c(3)s.
(3) A new store only selling non-Axanar related items (Jewish Space Laser Corps, etc.). The new management will decide if the new store will sell axanar-related merchandise.
(4) The Studios will continue to work with fan films and the Gwinnett County School System.
It then asks the recipient to donate $2/month to the studio Patron, with a link.
Reading between the lines, it sounds like CBS called their attorneys about violations of the settlement agreement. I could be wrong, however.
I haven't seen anyone else mention this email, but thought the announcement was interesting.
Yeah, truthfully I saw that too on the Facebook which inspired my post. Just when you think they've reached maximum bullshit it turns out they've still got plenty in the tank.
Pot, meet kettle.
So, is the way around not crowd funding fan films by creating a studio and crowdfunding rent? Or is this another way around it?
It is quite impressive that after all these years they still think it will work.
And that people keep sending them money!
Sunk Cost Fallacy™.
The only thing worse than getting taken by a conman is admitting you were taken by a conman.
With that there's an element of Schrödinger's conman, if you keep sending money there's a hope something will come of it, if you stop, that's acknowledging you got ripped off.
That doesn't make sense. Let me fix it for you.
Ares Studios is installing a new management structure and removing Alec and Crysstal from any involvement with the studio. "It will just insulate the studio from unscrupulous individuals."
There. Now it sounds correct.
You will donate in russian roubles.
Sounds honest to me.
They haven't yet reached the bottom of grift yet, seems like there is tons more in the tank yet
I was taken. And I admit it. But to be fair to me, when I was taken there was no sign yet of the con. They'd released one pretty good short and it looked like more was on the way.
The number of emails I still get from them (straight to junk of course) is quite astonishing.
I'd argue that, at that point, you weren't taken in at all. Initially, I don't believe there was a con it was only when the donations went from a trickle to a downpour that the greed and arrogance of certain individuals suddenly kicked in.
I also think they were quite lucky in that the rise of the axanar con coincided with the rise of internet people pan handling for a range of reasons, some good and some not so. It certainly helped them blend in with the crowd.
You say impressive I say depressing. I don't think that's as a result of axanar running a sophisticated campaign or even dazzling people with shiny possibility either.
I think it's just because they're down to the absolute pondlife now, the very dumbest and desperate-for-attention. They'll keep giving what they can because it's all they know now.
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