CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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Do you enjoy pie?

  1. Yes, sweet, please

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  2. Yes, savory, please

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  3. Yes, any kind

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  4. No, I'm a heathen

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  1. JD

    JD Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Has anybody said where the money for this new property is coming from? Is it from the movie money, the Patreon or whatever the monthly rent money comes from, or purely from Alec Peters' pocket?
     
  2. urbandefault

    urbandefault Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Alec Peters has no pockets. He picks everyone else's. :techman:
     
  3. dmac

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    Just thinking back to when this epic production required a mere thirty grand in order to make it happen.
     
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  4. Harvey

    Harvey Admiral Admiral

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    Considering the IRS has been totally gutted over the past decade, it's surprising when they're able to do anything right. I doubt Alec Peters is a top priority, and I'm sure he's banking on that.

    https://slate.com/business/2020/01/irs-audits-revenue-declining.html?via=recirc_recent
     
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  5. Jedi_Master

    Jedi_Master Admiral Admiral

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    This is Alec's basic strategy - slide under the radar, making enough to prevent a terrible thing like having to actually work, but also not enough to be worth CBS' or the government's time.
     
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  6. dmac

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    After being in business for 30 years I found it's not the IRS you have to worry about.
    Each state has their own little departments stuffed with regulators. In California the most difficult was the State board of equalization. (Retail sales tax) because an audit can be triggered by association.
    In a normal year you may have 50 suppliers and 300 customers and one of those companies fails to report their sales taxes which triggers audits up and down the line.
    It doesn't matter if you crossed all of your "I's" and dotted all of your "T's". All it takes is for someone else to cheat, upstream or downstream, four thugs in dark sunglasses show up and you can expect to be shut down for 3-4 days while they review every file in the office.
    Those are the people that will expose intentional fraud and then you're red tagged to the labor board, safety board, state franchise tax board, workers comp board, building inspector and worst of all The Waste Management Authority!
    The IRS are pussy cats, just pay your fair share and sleep well at night.
     
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  7. JD

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    It's always the thing you don't expect that bite you in the ass the worst.
     
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  8. Scout101

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    May be time to accept that most of that just ain't happening, though. CBS doesn't seem to care enough to enforce it's agreement, IRS seems cool to just ignore him, idiots keep sending him money, no movie, or even 15-min segment is coming anytime soon, etc.

    Seems to have found some equilibrium where he's grifting just enough to keep it going, but not enough to have it all fall in on him. Deserves it, sure, but just starting to seem like it's not coming and he's just going to continue one as a parasite on the side of the Trek franchise for a while now...
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    That's what I do.

    I think its at the point that any attention given is reinforcing this behavior. I think it may be a good idea to ignore Alec, let him orchestrate his own doom.
     
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  10. MikeH92467

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    "Rattling a saber makes noise. Drawing it does not." Russian proverb (according to Tom Clancy, anyway)
     
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  11. dmac

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    Russians and their history, they might have lifted off of Marmaduke Grove 1924 Chile protests. I don't know, wasn't there.
    Anyway, if you get up this way, drop by and we can plot the takeover of the galaxy or at least drop by Fuzzy's and see if they still cap a steer every time someone orders a burger. ( I think it's a myth)
    Happy Russian New Years!
     
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  12. Tosk

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    So..."they" are now trying to bilk people out of more money for shipping that was already taken into account when the people donated! (Shocked, but not surprised.)

    So basically, they're just trying to get another $76,000 out of the donors for nothing.
     
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  13. urbandefault

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    Second verse, same as the first. :techman:
     
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  14. jespah

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    If I'm not mistaken, the same shipping has been paid for something like four times.
     
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  15. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    Didn't Alec Peter own/run a shipping company once upon a time?
     
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  16. Maurice

    Maurice Maurice, the ATARI CX5200 Premium Member

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    Milk & Bilk Shipping
     
  17. Noname Given

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    Well, to be fair, Alec Peter's car probably has four tires... ;)
     
  18. JD

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    Is this the same stuff that people paid for back before the law suit and never got?
     
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  19. jespah

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    I believe so.
     
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  20. dmac

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    Didn't they change that to a free patch download?