CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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Do you enjoy pie?

  1. Yes, sweet, please

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  2. Yes, savory, please

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  3. Yes, any kind

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  4. No, I'm a heathen

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  1. KennyB

    KennyB Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    If it is a hobby then yes. It would be very much like someone going hunting or fishing and inviting friends over to dine on the catch. How about I liked to fish, but I needed to start a GoFundMe to a boat and fuel, tackle and fishing gear? I'll need food for my trip, so add that. I forgot I need a NEW pickup truck and a trailer to tow the boat around............Oh and when my fishing trip is over I get to keep everything.......no matter if I catch any fish..........

    And with YouTube views he will get ad revenue. So after my fishing trip, I'm going to charge you if you want to eat the fish I catch.
     
  2. Bixby

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    I`ve noticed a couple of YouTube videos with Axanar FX footage I`ve never seen before (sorry, not really keeping up with all the goings on over the last few years) but is Tobias Richter still involved with this project in any way?
    (By far the saddest byproduct by the Trek fanfilm meltdown is the near total absence of Tobias`s FX work )
     
  3. Maurice

    Maurice Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    You can opt out of monetization, and if Axanything ever gets on YouTube they'd damned well better not have monetization enabled. It's shut off on Exeter's TTI, for instance. You do see ads on Exeter's "The Savage Empire" and some other fanfilms, but that's because those film feature unlicensed music and YouTube automatically places ads and sends the revenue to the music rights holders, not the fanfilm makers.
     
  4. Csalem

    Csalem Commodore Commodore

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  5. feek61

    feek61 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    If AP is involved in this scenario then after getting the money he would never get around to going fishing and blame the dock master, fuel station, etc. for him not being able to to fish.
     
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  6. Sgt_G

    Sgt_G Commodore Commodore

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    Why should I believe that you'll actually catch any fish?

    WHERE'S THE FISH, KENNY?

    WHERE'S THE MOVIE, ALEC?
     
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  7. dmac

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    Fishing with Kenny?
    Damn-it Kenny, just take my money!
     
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  8. KennyB

    KennyB Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Let’s roll!!!!! Some of those early donations are from crew members. Like the guy getting paid to make the costumes. And kinda telling the $1000 one is anonymous. Priming the pump!
     
  9. dmac

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    I'm fishing with Kenny
    Don't need no boat
    I'm fishing with Kenny
    Just light the fuse
    and watch the sushi float.
     
  10. jespah

    jespah Rear Admiral Moderator

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    Do we get patches? Do you mail the fish out, @KennyB ? And if it takes you years to do so, do you send out gas masks for the stench, or are those extra?
     
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  11. dmac

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    At the thousand dollar level you get an official K.B snake bite kit.
     
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  12. Csalem

    Csalem Commodore Commodore

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    If that person had donated an extra $1 they would have moved into the Admiral rank. Instead they are at the very upper limit of Commodore ($501-$1000).

    I also just noticed this on the GoFundMe page:
     
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  13. Kytee

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    I read the blogs about Interlude and its budget ; I'm confused a bit about the tunics.
    So Alec insists on using his tailor to make the costumes , which increases the cost of Interlude...Lane assures us he can't give the costumes to Axanar, but what would stop him from 'selling' them at cost to Alec and then donating the money privately to Axanar ?

    The really odd thing to me is, if we assume Alec will make the movie some day ; We are supposed to believe that he will have an entirely new set of tunics made even though his buddy has a closet full of tunics made to his spec.... that seems ... unlikely.

    I think my favorite part is that Lane mentions in the blog that we can't expect folks to volunteer their time for a fan project; then someone in the comments tries to enthusiastically volunteer to help with the sewing only to get told they have to pay someone because Alec said so :P
     
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  14. Steven P Bastien

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    The main thing with asking for money is that you should say what you are going to do and then do what you said. I don't care if it is to fish as a hobby, or to feed the world; or making a movie to learn the craft, or entertain the fans; or simply to learn how to hop on one foot, because you are bored, or because you lost your other leg. Just be honest and let each potential donor decide if that is something worthy of their donation.

    Personally, I'm not going to pay for you to fish as a hobby, or to make a movie to learn that craft, or to hop on one leg for fun. But, I would donate so that you can take up the difficult profession of fishing to feed the hungry millions of the world, or to make a movie I would enjoy seeing, or to help you recover from an injury.

    But, mostly, I don't want to donate to someone who is lying to me - saying they are going to do one thing, but intending to do another.
     
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  15. drt

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    Anovos is slow as crap, but they usually deliver.

    However, let's not kid ourselves that this isn't a nuisance lawsuit since they're also suing Disney, etc. Note that after not receiving about $4300 of pre-ordered merchandise after about two years, three months prior to filing the lawsuit the plantiff pre-ordered $36,000 in additional merchandise that he knew wouldnt get fulfilled immediately in order to inflate his claims. That looks to me more like someone who saw a get rich scheme and less like a dissatisfied customer.
     
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  16. JD

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    I really hope that is the case, and nobody else is actually stupid enough to give money to this.
    Yeah, that is a bit odd.
     
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  17. Steven P Bastien

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    To me, it looks like someone throwing good money after bad, which seems to be a recurring theme in all these "kickstarter dramas".

    It just doesn't seem like going after "beggars with LLCs" is a good "get-rich" strategy.
     
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  18. KennyB

    KennyB Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    Looks like they are not getting THAT much support from previous donors.....from the official Facebook Page on the new fundraiser..........

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  19. 137th Gebirg

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    Somewhere in the distance, I hear a door creaking shut...
     
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  20. Red Shirt

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    According to the gofundme page info AP is going to play Garth in Lane's interlude so everyone open your wallets for the bestest fan film evah! Cough, sarcasm, cough.
     
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