CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar 2 - Electric Boogaloo-Fanboys gone WILD-too many hyphens

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by jespah, May 10, 2018.

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Do you enjoy pie?

  1. Yes, sweet, please

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  2. Yes, savory, please

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  3. Yes, any kind

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  1. urbandefault

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  2. SITZKRIEG!

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    While there is a bountiful history of foaming at the mouth rabid Axanar hate in the thread by folks (to butcher a Batman quote) just wanting to watch the Axanar world burn, it's equally moronic to pretend that there is nothing to object to in the history of the Axanar project. Do I want to see them fail personally? No, not at all. I prefer what came out in Prelude for less than $500k to everything we've gotten for $80 million+ in Star Trek Discovery and wish that Alec Peters had made good on his contractual obligations in the followup full movie. Unfortunately, he didn't and it was 100% by his own choice. It was his own choice to alienate key people who made the first film possible and to instead devote his time (and backer money) to funding his studio and coffee/model tie in product endeavors instead of making the film first and foremost. If he had done the latter instead of the former, he wouldn't have been sued (although I do think that some sort of fan film guidelines would have come out eventually regardless with a trek series in production for the first time during the youtube fan film era) and we'd all have a film. Unfortunately, Alec Peter's ego is the gift (to Axamonitor and this thread) that keeps on giving and backers (I'm not one but I empathize with them) have nothing so far.

    As for "are you doing something better?", please don't default onto that fallacy. You don't need to be a Michelin star chef to recognize that you shouldn't be waiting for your meal for three hours nor that the restaurant manager shouldn't be loudly berating the wait staff in front of the diners. Similarly, you don't need IMDB credits to your name to realize that things went very wrong with the Axanar project post Prelude.
     
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  3. Professor Zoom

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    For the most part I like J. J so I’m not sure if what this means.
     
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  4. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    I love it when I find someone new to ignore. The ignore button is quite... handy, you could say!
     
  5. dmac

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    Who doesn't like J.J.
    When someone is pretending to be greater than thou, who knows who they think they are?
    I really don't have the time or wish to put in the effort to uncover it because in the end, it's just another know-it-all.
     
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  6. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    Yeah. I’ve said my piece. No plans to elaborate further on my part.
     
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  7. Handyman

    Handyman Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    You are absolutely right PZ
    It is a great feature for silencing the doobs.
     
  8. fireproof78

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  9. Professor Zoom

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    I suspect gaining knowledge wasn’t the point of this recent screed.
     
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  10. fireproof78

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    Probably not.
     
  11. Maurice

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    God sometimes I really miss the old 640x480 max image size rule.
     
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    I’m sorry but the image upload is much easier than the image hosting option. Thumbnail is too small and full size is REALLY big. Apologies.
     
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  13. Maurice

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    I just put stuff like that in $poiler tags so people don't have to seen it every time they hit that page. :)
     
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  15. Nerys Myk

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    PZ? doob????? What am I missing???
     
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  16. fireproof78

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    I took PZ as "Professor Zoom" but doob is a new one to me.
     
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  17. 137th Gebirg

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    “Doob”... A title I shall wear as a badge of honor.
     
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  18. trynda1701

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    Fixed that for ya! ;)
     
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  19. Professor Zoom

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    OOOOOOOHH. I had no idea he was talking about me. Meh. Until other evidence comes in I’m scrolling past his posts, I don’t bother with what looks to be trolling.
     
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  20. Handyman

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    First off.
    I came on here to post a FACTUAL, update on Axanar. Not a useless opinion. a fact.
    That's all.
    The last thing I expected was to be hit on by a handful of pissed off children with no manners and I can promise you, it will be the last time I answer these pitiful complaints.

    SO

    To that end, I've used that cool, "IGNORE" button you can find when you click on the posters name, to weed you be-moaners out of my in-box.
    Thus I won't get your pointlessly, useless barbs.

    Now. To respond to your insults:
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Opinions Are Like Assholes.
    If you knew anything at all about law which you apparently do not (and I can say that as fact due to your ignorance in producing what you mistakenly consider pertinent documents proving your pointless opinion), "You can sue anyone for anything".
    The color of their hair, their offensive mouth wash, their offensive barbs on internet blog sites. ANYTHING.
    There are no guidelines as to whether the case needs to be sound or for that matter, valid to be filed. Just state it, pay the fee and wait your venue.
    What's more is you can sue for any amount too. $10, $100, $10,000 or millions or just "the principal of it".
    But you can bet your life on this...
    Not a lick of it matters in any way, shape, form or manner until you have a judgement in your favor and even then, it still really doesn't matter because it can still be contested and quashed as well.
    So going around shooting your mouth off insulting people and using a frivolous, unanswered or unresolved case as ammo to back your whining is the work of a fool, because if the suit is quashed, as it so often is, you have then PROVED yourself to be the fool that you only looked like before.

    Next.
    Even if there is a judgement, it's only as good as the paper it's written on.
    Enforcing judgments is a full time job as most are simply ignored, appealed or worked around.
    In law, that's unofficially yet universally referred to as the "so what" argument.

    Next.
    None of us really care about what you invested (that's referred to as the "three sides" doctrine. The complainants story, the respondents story and the truth which lies somewhere in between) nor are we even concerned with your personal feelings (they are in point of fact, irrelevant), good or bad about it either.
    If you have FACTUAL material to deliver, not hearsay matter or fraudulent or malicious accusations, then we want to hear about it.

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    Incidentally fool:
    Defamation is an area of law that provides a civil remedy when someone's words end up causing harm to your reputation or your livelihood. Libel is a written or published defamatory statement.
    You blatantly opened yourself up to both those suits via this site.
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    We care only about what we think. Why you would even consider that we really care about you or what you think, baffles me because we don't.
    REALLY.
    Besides, do you really think that if we wanted financial advice regarding this venture, we would consult with you???
    I think not.

    Next.
    Don't make yourself look silly by issuing demeaning "red shirts" insults. It's ridiculous. Why the Mods don't get on you about it baffles me but it matters little anyway with this cool, IGNORE button.
    You have no real importance here tiger.
    For all you know, I could be the head of the US Secret Service recently signed on and I would happily bet that I'd outrank all of you, that being the circumstances, shirt or no shirt.
    HONESTLY.
    Rank here is nothing to brag about.
    To earn a so called rank here, you don't have to be a leader, accomplish anything outstanding, be brave or kindhearted, or for that matter, even know what you're talking about much less be factual.
    All you have to do is bore the dickens outa people with a couple thousand pointless, opinion posts as you've proven (factual)
    There is no difference here between a red shirt and an admiral other than the total number of intelligent and unintelligent opinions you posted so don't flatter yourself. You look silly.

    And last but certainly not least.
    That you would dare to insult me or my art when I have art to display while you have nothing of any value or substance to give, blows my mind. The level of your profound, pompousness is nothing short of astounding.
    Not only do I have dress up dolls (I'm in fact a critic of DAZ), I have original art far more complex than any you've posted and I've published books to boot.
    In addition to that, I've been and am being paid to provide additional material to other clients as well.
    Put you money where your colossally huge mouth is and show me what you've got to stand up against even the dress up doll child.