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Casual clothes TNG to PIC - from terrible to far too 2020s?

No brainer to who? I'm aware of such materials and I do not expect them to be able to rolled out in any great way any time soon. I've done my research on it. Also, does bulletproof mean no injury?
We’re talking about 300-400 years from now.

Yeah, I’m talking no injury because if the first bulletproof-wear is introduced a century or three earlier, by the 24th, they’ve got it down.

I'm saying that I would not be surprised to see those suits still used by some. I don't expect extremely ugly unitards to become in fashion, I don't care how far in to the future you go.
Yoga pants.
 
We’re talking about 300-400 years from now.

Yeah, I’m talking no injury because if the first bulletproof-wear is introduced a century or three earlier, by the 24th, they’ve got it down.
Oh...ok. :shrug:

I don't think that's a no brainer. I think that's too far fetched.
Yoga pants.
Ugly. I loath them. Hate selling them, hate seeing them.
 
Oh...ok. :shrug:

I don't think that's a no brainer. I think that's too far fetched.
How is it far-fetched? There’s literally an article linked about it being developed right now.

Ugly. I loath them. Hate selling them, hate seeing them.
Different strokes for different folks, but whereas they would have gotten you in prison in centuries prior people are commonly wearing them today. Same with short skirts and how many other common looks?

This prudishness for the status quo is kind of astonishing from my perspective. I’m looking forward to us all being genetically engineered pretty, and personal forcefields eliminating the need for clothing altogether as we all become nudists. Like all the aliens we tend to see in movies.
 
How is it far-fetched? There’s literally an article linked about it being developed right now.
And? I don't find it believable. I have read multiple things "in development" that I will believe it when I see it in full use, and preventing actual kinetic injury.
This prudishness for the status quo is kind of astonishing from my perspective. I’m looking forward to us all being genetically engineered pretty, and personal forcefields eliminating the need for clothing altogether as we all become nudists. Like all the aliens we tend to see in movies.
Talk about a non-sequitur. What the fuck is this on about? :wtf:
 
Oh...ok. :shrug:

I don't think that's a no brainer. I think that's too far fetched.

There's literally Non-Newtonian Fluids that can harden up on high impact.

And a thin layer of "Impact Gel" can literally absorb the rest, behind the Bullet Proof layers.

There are even existing Carbon Nano-Tube fabrics that are thinner and strong that can stop bullets & knives.

They aren't cheap, but they get the job done.
 
There's literally Non-Newtonian Fluids that can harden up on high impact.

And a thin layer of "Impact Gel" can literally absorb the rest, behind the Bullet Proof layers.

There are even existing Carbon Nano-Tube fabrics that are thinner and strong that can stop bullets & knives.

They aren't cheap, but they get the job done.
I am aware of all this. Again, the question I have is does it prevent kinetic injury? Bulletproof has meant "it stops the bullet but there is still bruising or other type of injury." That's my question and skepticism. Yes, I have read the research on non-Newtonian fluids. I am finding it straining belief that the kinetic energy is dispersed so effectively that it prevents any injury.

That's my skepticism. As well as the cost factor and them being used in anything but a more expensive, high end, population, not generally available to Joe Blow on the street.
 
I am aware of all this. Again, the question I have is does it prevent kinetic injury? Bulletproof has meant "it stops the bullet but there is still bruising or other type of injury." That's my question and skepticism. Yes, I have read the research on non-Newtonian fluids. I am finding it straining belief that the kinetic energy is dispersed so effectively that it prevents any injury.

That's my skepticism. As well as the cost factor and them being used in anything but a more expensive, high end, population, not generally available to Joe Blow on the street.
AR500armor.com sells Non-Newtonian Trauma pads.
The Non-Newtonian Trauma Pads are a pretty common and popular item in the Body Armor industry today.
You can literally go buy it right now.

As for ImpactGel, if the company that makes it ever gets their head out of their own arse and sells the material to anybody who wants to use it, in bulk. Then they would have a winner and make more money.

But since they want to be the sole manufacturer of items using Impact Gel, their reach is limited and people have to wait for their patent to run out.

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Once you add in the Impact Gel layer behind the Non-Newtonian Trauma pad layer, you probably won't feel much of anything once the bullet or knife or hammer hits your armor.

Flexible CNT (Carbon Nano-Tube) based Fabric Armor or Kevlar/Aramid Fiber Armor are all pretty common and cheap relatively.

A few hundred bucks and you can buy it right now.

The Trauma Pad is about $100-$200 a piece.

I'm not sure of the Impact Gel, but I know it's OVER-PRICED as hell right now.

If they mass produced it, it should be <$100 given the core materials.
 
Probably?
It'll be more like you get shoved then punched at the point of impact.

It has more to do with the way the force is spread into each layer.

The Bullet Proof Layer catches and deforms the bullet into a small hill like shape

The Non-Newtonian layer hardens temporarily and makes a wide flat surface.

The Impact Gel disperses the energy across the rest of it's surface area.
 
It'll be more like you get shoved then punched at the point of impact.

It has more to do with the way the force is spread into each layer.

The Bullet Proof Layer catches and deforms the bullet into a small hill like shape

The Non-Newtonian layer hardens temporarily and makes a wide flat surface.

The Impact Gel disperses the energy across the rest of it's surface area.
I see.
 
And? I don't find it believable. I have read multiple things "in development" that I will believe it when I see it in full use, and preventing actual kinetic injury.
Okay? I guess electricity and computers and automobiles and penicillin and COVID vaccines and everything else just isn’t believable because they were “in development” once. I guess we’ve reached the End of History in which everything that can be developed more or less has been. That incremental change can never, even after centuries or millennia lead to aggregate change that is actually pretty freaking profoundly different from what came before.

Talk about a non-sequitur. What the fuck is this on about? :wtf:
It’s about change.
 
Okay? I guess electricity and computers and automobiles and penicillin and COVID vaccines and everything else just isn’t believable because they were “in development” once. I guess we’ve reached the End of History in which everything that can be developed more or less has been. That incremental change can never, even after centuries or millennia lead to aggregate change that is actually pretty freaking profoundly different from what came before.
This misses my point. But, I have a feeling that is deliberate so I'll just let it go.
It’s about change.
Ok??? :wtf:

So, because of my response on yoga pants you assume a prudish stance in regards to fashion. Because that is how it came across.
 
If we're talking about exclusively space-living humans, I would think that over time the social norms would drift towards less and less clothing, until people are more-or-less nude save for pockets to carry things.

After all, internal ship temperatures could be set at whatever. Why set them at "room temperature" and have regular clothing? You could set the internal temperature to be more like a warm summer day, at which point you don't even need clothing to feel comfortable.
 
If we're talking about exclusively space-living humans, I would think that over time the social norms would drift towards less and less clothing, until people are more-or-less nude save for pockets to carry things.

After all, internal ship temperatures could be set at whatever. Why set them at "room temperature" and have regular clothing? You could set the internal temperature to be more like a warm summer day, at which point you don't even need clothing to feel comfortable.
I think nudism will become far more common, and I think the emphasis will be on personal comfort, as well as a variety of fashion choices, some which will look contemporary to our modern eye.

I thought it was us evolving past modern Prudish-ness and not shaming people who want to wear skin tight or revealing outfits.
Hopefully we move past shaming people for any outfits. Including shirts and ties.
 
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Hopefully we move past shaming people for any outfits. Including shirts and ties.
I won't shame you for it, but I think the classic Tie look is bad design.

Modern Clip-On Ties should've replaced all sales of traditional wrap around your neck ties, but sadly they haven't.

Too many people cling onto traditional ties.

I think nudism will become far more common, and I think the emphasis will be on personal comfort, as well as a variety of fashion choices, some which will look contemporary to our modern eye.
I think Top-less ness will be more common, but we won't go full on nudism.

Everybody will still wear the bottom piece of their swim wear.
 
I won't shame you for it, but I think the classic look is bad design.
And? Who decides bad design? I'll tell you what-I have had more positive feedback from being in a shirt and tie than shorts and a polo. Clothes are often interpreted a certain way and that has an impact, not just design.
 
And? Who decides bad design? I'll tell you what-I have had more positive feedback from being in a shirt and tie than shorts and a polo. Clothes are often interpreted a certain way and that has an impact, not just design.
The fact that Ties are a choking hazard to the person who wears them around their neck.

That's what makes it "Bad Design".

If it was a Clip-On, I wouldn't care. There's no risk of being choked.
 
The fact that Ties are a choking hazard to the person who wears them around their neck.

That's what makes it "Bad Design".

If it was a Clip-On, I wouldn't care. There's no risk of being choked.
That's why I use clip ons when the time is called for a tie. Have for a number of years.

I also have aggressive behavior management training. Never had to use it.
 
That's why I use clip ons when the time is called for a tie. Have for a number of years.

I also have aggressive behavior management training. Never had to use it.
Every tie I inherited or was gifted, and I have literally over 3 dozen of them, are traditional ties.

All designed to go around your neck and be a choking hazard.
 
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