Casting a Gender-Switched Enterprise

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

"built for Sin"?

I can't be bothered listing examples of diverse shaped actors in Star Trek, seems kind of pointless when you object to a young woman's thighs.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Nobody's resexed Sybok, as yet, I'm noticing ...

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Louise Fletcher would do a great job.

EVERY DAY IS FIRE CAVES DAY.

Charismatic, insane. Stick some ears on her and

I'd also love to see her disheveled

Thinking about it I think she would have been FAR better than the Sybok we had.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

And though you can't tell it, in that shot, she's got some very beefy thighs. It bugged me alot, that costume didn't lower her skirt, or throw something over them to kind of de-emphasize this fact.

She's playing bicycle spokes as a musical instrument, but a little spreading out on the thighs in a flat sitting position (which is rarely flattering for anyone even if you have twigs for legs) is what bugs you "a lot" there and needs to be hidden away?

I suppose one could call me especially demanding, but I really don't think so. Actresses are supposed to be very photogenic, extremely attractive and built for Sin. I mean, let's face it, there are very few "realistic" looking character actresses under 40, for good reason. Would Jolene Blalock have been cast as T'Pol, if she'd had a butt like a bag of cottage cheese?

You're especially demanding (which is frankly a very polite way of putting it). Obviously, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I find her very photogenic and attractive, and not at all "beefy" in spite of your attempts to depict her as unfit for television. I'll leave "built for sin" off, since that taking the only thinking of women as sex objects discussion way beyond what's already happening here.

You are also conflating the ultra-thin type of actresses that are often cast today with their TOS counterparts, which were curvier, more typical of the women in audience, but no less attractive to most people if we're to judge by the number of threads complementing the beauty of the women of TOS in said forum. That being said, there are plenty of attractive curvier women on TV today as well, so your assertion that they have no place there is inaccurate too.

 

[borgboy]

Louise Fletcher is awesome, she would've been much better than the Sybok we got I agree, but that is setting the bar pretty high to be fair.
It is appalling how rigid and unforgiving modern standards of beauty are if that girl is supposed to be overweight by modern standards. Much like how commonly people say TOS era Kirk is fat, which is ridiculous as well. I get a little bored with everybody kind of looking the same in so many modern movies and tv shows.

 

[2takesfrakes]

Allow me to make amends:

This Screen Cap (included for the enjoyment and appreciation of all) is of Deborah Downey, playing the blonde musician in the STAR TREK episode "Way to Eden."

Apparently, she turned to painting and is known more as a portrait artist, these days. Information on her is most limited, but for your reference, I have included these links:

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Deborah_Downey

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0235989/bio

 

[BigJake]

I suppose one could call me especially demanding, but I really don't think so.

Yeah, not that I'm acquiescing to "built for Sin" as a criterion, but I don't see anything about that actress that would be out of place as "beauty" in any era and certainly not in ours. Thanks for posting those added links though.

 

[Newspaper Taxi]

I could actually see the male Kirk and Spock duo talking about shoes.

KIRK: Mister Spock, that's a mighty fine pair of boots.
SPOCK: Thank you, Captain.
KIRK: Not standard issue. Where'd you get them?
SPOCK: Back at the trading station we encountered one month ago.
KIRK: Shame. We won't be heading back to that region for some time.

Then Bones walks in.

BONES: Those shoes are NOT standard issued.
SPOCK: No, Doctor. But I did check regulations, and they meet the requirements.
BONES: Screw this shit. I'm putting on my crocs.

 

[2takesfrakes]

There you go, Newspaper Taxi! You got it ...
STAR TREK could benefit from more than merely switching genders. I suspect a revolution is coming, where STAR TREK is less cardboardish, in its characterizations and performances, becoming more Human ... and relatable.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

That will definitely happen if we ever get a new series. There will be more kicking back, and not just listening to recitals.

DS9 did go there to some extent.

 

[Sindatur]

"built for Sin"?

I can't be bothered listing examples of diverse shaped actors in Star Trek, seems kind of pointless when you object to a young woman's thighs.

<Scratches Head> Wait...Would not a woman with beefy muscular thighs be built for Sin?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I've got a Meatloaf song in my head after reading that.

 

[Sindatur]

I've got a Meatloaf song in my head after reading that.

Then my work here is done

 

[2takesfrakes]

I know the territory, I've been around
It'll all turn to dust and we'll all fall down
Sooner or later you'll be screwing around.

Oh, I would do anything for love
but I won't do that ...
No, I won't ... do ... that!

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Enterprise characters:

Captain Jocelyn Archer

Charlene 'Trip' Tucker III

Dr. Phezal Flox

Teresa Mayweather

Lt. Marian Reed

Hitomi Sato

Sol (T'Pol)

Harriet Archer

Adm. Maxine Forrest-Patty Duke

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Adm. Maxine Forrest-Patty Duke

 

[Shaka Zulu]

^Okay, then, tell me what older lady do you have in mind for this role?

 

[2takesfrakes]

Kate Mulgrew, of course!

 

[Takeru]

Hitomi Sato

If you want to gender switch Sato, you should maybe pick a male name.

 

[BigJake]

^Okay, then, tell me what older lady do you have in mind for this role?

Sigourney Weaver?