And Bruce Greenwood was at least 51 when shooting the 09 film.
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I like Bruce Greenwood, but I don't assume the Abrams reboot actually has anything in common with "prime" Trek. I'm comfortable with Simon Pegg's rationalization that the intervention in 2233 had ripple effects both forward and back. Hell, we already knew Chekov was a different age in that reality; why not Pike?
Chekov was born after the Kelvin incident, so his parents having their child earlier in the Kelvin timeline and still naming him Pavel is believable.
Chris Pike was born long before the Kelvin incident.
The ripple theory is interesting. DC Comcs tend to use that kind of logic for time travel in their stuff, but the ripple theory does counter how Trek has approached time travel and time alteration before.
I think it's just easier taking the Kelvin films as their own separate universe altogether. Nero didn't just go back in time, he traveled to an entirely different universe as well. This is how you can explain why the ages of characters don't align with their Prime counterparts, and especially why Khan is so different.
Trying to keep some connection to the Primeverse via Nimoy just felt like the filmmakers trying to throw a bone at old fans.
Speaking of the Abramsverse, I find this thread from 2007 highly amusing;
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/anson-mount-for-captain-christopher-pike.34386/
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/anson-mount-for-captain-christopher-pike.34386/
Now, THAT's the record for earliest prediction!
Wow. I haven't seen some of those usernames in a long time.
Anyone who wants to see what Anson Mount can do, I highly recommend watching Hell on Wheels (available on Netflix streaming in the US), and I highly recommend not watching Inhumans, because it was just all-around bad.
Unless it's TAS. Or cut footage added to post-theatrical TV releases. Unless it's Saavik's Romulan blood exposition scene. Or "Vulcanians"... unless... or... unless... or... unless...
Perfect. Was going to look for Hell on Wheels.
They should not show any sexism by Pike in this version. Also no paper printer on the bridge 
Whatever happened to Temis? She was a good poster.
Spock will be a lot harder, there are not many people who look like Leonard Nimoy.
(*Shakes fist at air*) TEMPORAL COLD WAR!!!
Spock will be a lot harder, there are not many people who look like Leonard Nimoy.
So similar it's frightening. Mount is a little more intense looking, but otherwise pretty close.
As far as Spock, we may or may not see him, or even need to. Depends how much of S2E1 is dedicated to the meeting with the big E. We might just have a scene with Michael & Sarek talking about poorly their meeting with Spock went.
My asking that question hardly implies what I think of the other series. I'm just trying to understand where everyone's coming from, sorry.
I strongly recommend that you do. Based on some recommendations mentioned here, I started watching the program last night on NETFLIX. I powered through the first 4 episodes and I'm completely hooked. I cannot believe this was never on my viewing radar. Good performances all around and a fairly compelling story. Yea, it has some basic TV tropes we've seen before, but the acting more than makes up for the shallow motivations.
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Keep watching! To me, although I love the whole series, I found that around the point where Mount takes more production under his wing, you'll notice the series starts to have a little quicker pace, but still as absorbing.
I have always been close to a purist about railroad history (my family worked 3 generations for railroads), but the series was good enough that I could suspend all that.
Given that, the series does manage to convey what those mobile towns along the Transcontinental Railroad that sprang up (which were nicknamed "Hell on Wheels") were like.
I dunno. I feel like there would be something to be gained if we discover that the Trek future isn't just a straight arrow of progress - that even though things get better overall, there are areas where things regressed for a time. There's analogues in history here - such as the U.S. actually getting significantly more racist as the 19th century progressed.
Maybe there was some (minority) social view that as work became more rare, women should have gone back to their traditional roles of household management and child-rearing? Obviously this was dead by the 24th century, when humans found Ferengi sexism outmoded, but still, it could have had a brief period of popularity in the 23rd.
One of the things I've always disliked about Trek honestly is that the Federation is generally portrayed as being more or less "normal" according to the mores of whatever time period it is being filmed. There are exceptions, such as the general absence of religion and anything resembling capitalism, but for the most part there isn't really any "cultural evolution" which is seen at all. It's one reason why I really don't mind The Prime Directive, as it's the one area where Federation morality is often very, very different from modern western morality.
I actually don't think that we will. If I recall correctly, Sarek's attendance on the Enterprise for the Babel Conference was the first time they had spoken in 17 years.
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