Not for everyone. I hardly read any of the novels, and to me they've never been canon since it wasn't onscreen.
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Also, given Pike's brooding nature, he might have aged a little bit. Stress can do that.
Your personal indifference towards the contents of Discovery's tie-in novels means nothing.
The DSC tie-in novels aren't explicitly Canon, but they're also not explicitly Non-Canon, either.
That is a fact.
No it's fact that they're non-canon. This was said by someone from the show.
While the author worked with the show crew and ideas/notes were shared between them, but the show doesn't need to follow anything from the books.
I'm 38, and my beard is mostly white. Went from basically no gray to over half gray from age 30 to 32 - basically when I became a father. Hair didn't change much though.
Do you have a source for this?
The show doesn't NEED to adhere to the tie-in books, but that doesn't mean that it CAN'T or WON'T.
ST Vegas 2017, look up the novel panel.
No shit. I didn't say that it couldn't. In fact some of the background notes created for the book were given to some of the Shenzhou bridge crew actors.
^ I can't find that panel, but I did find a Twitter statement from Ted Sullivan that was made within the last two days that actually invalidates everything that's been said here over the past few posts regarding the relationship between the show and its tie-in fiction:
A member of CBS' Consumer Products division, John Can Citters, also weighed in on the subject with the following:
So, as you can see, we' have in fact been given an explicit declaration of Canonical status - unless otherwise specified - for DSC's tie-in fiction, something that has never before happened with Trek.
A member of CBS' Consumer Products division, John Can Citters, also weighed in on the subject with the following:
So, as you can see, we' have in fact been given an explicit declaration of Canonical status - unless otherwise specified - for DSC's tie-in fiction, something that has never before happened with Trek.
I agree with most of the points you're making here, but please, please don't refer to Kirk as a "grown frat boy." That was the Abrams caricature of Kirk, not the real thing.
Uh-huh. That's kinda like saying a car will be "based on" the classic '67 Corvette, except "updated to the aesthetic" of a present-day Covini. It could mean any damn thing.
I took it as meaning it would be the same shape, with the outward consoles, etc.
But would have more video screens.
But, he wasn't a boy scout either.
Also, the whole "frat boy' thing is stupid charicerization that really should stop after nearly ten years of discussing Abrams films. Kirk had to grow through growth and changes as a character. Nothing wrong with that.
Regarding whether or not the novels are semi-canon, for me the litmus test is going to be Una. If Number One is Una, plus all the traits the novels associated with that character, then they are, at least to some extent, paying attention to the novels, if not, then they are not.
I thought Number One was supposed to be Robin Lefler's immortal mom or some other inane Peter David-inspired crap.
All Trek Novels are written that way. They need to stay accurate to canon.
Let's be clear here: Ted Sullivan's statement was specifically referring to the tie-in fiction directly related to Discovery in terms of what is and isn't Canon, so the only stuff that the show absolutely has to adhere to in regards to the other Trek series is what was shown onscreen in them.
That is a very specific litmus test.
I thought the only novel considered semi-canon was the newest one?
Translation: "No the novels aren't canon because we're going to contradict them, but we're calling them canon for now so you'll buy them."
These comments are not even remotely close to what Ted Sullivan's statement says.
He was asked a specific question regarding the relationship between Star Trek Discovery's onscreen content and the contents of its specific tie-in fiction, and he stated that, unless a situation arises in which the onscreen narrative of Discovery requires deviation, it will be wholly consistent with the contents of the tie-in fiction created to promote the series... which is a situation that has never before been in play.
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